Size Of The New Enterprise (large images)

[EJD1984]

Are we already forgetting the new dimension given in this Article stating the NuE is 2000ft (609m).

I know there's been some grumbling about using the Tobias Richter graphic, but it seems to be the best that we have now for scaling comparison purposes.

 

[Mangledduk]

Are we already forgetting the new dimension given in this Article stating the NuE is 2000ft (609m).

I know there's been some grumbling about using the Tobias Richter graphic, but it seems to be the best that we have now for scaling comparison purposes.

That's definitely not forgotten by me. Its the only one of the sizes we've been given that isn't completely ludicrous I still think they meant to make the Enterprise roughly the same size as the original, but they didn't know the dimensions on the original to begin with. If they thought the original was 1300 feet like they say in that article and they scaled the new one up to 2000 feet that means what we essentially get is a ship that has been scaled up 1.54 times the original. Which would give us figures of something like 1540 feet I believe, if scaled up in that proportion.

The Tobias Richter model is pretty close in everything but the shuttle bay side profile. Other than that, its pretty close. And even with that, its not THAT off...
I think these images are the closest we have to an accurate model for the NuE
http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/new-enterprise.php

 

[largo]

i had a cake.

 

[Lt. Trull]

Are we already forgetting the new dimension given in this Article stating the NuE is 2000ft (609m).

I know there's been some grumbling about using the Tobias Richter graphic, but it seems to be the best that we have now for scaling comparison purposes.

You might want to check out:
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(alternate_reality)
before you reference non canon sites.

 

[Hyperspace05]

Are we already forgetting the new dimension given in this Article stating the NuE is 2000ft (609m).

I know there's been some grumbling about using the Tobias Richter graphic, but it seems to be the best that we have now for scaling comparison purposes.

You might want to check out http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(alternate_reality) before you reference non canon sites.

Newsflash: Memory Alpha is not a "canon" site. It is better if you don't operate under the mistaken impression that it is.

 

[Psion]

i had a cake.

The cake is a lie.

 

[Lt. Trull]

more canon then his site

 

[Jag2112]

Some additional images of the NuE are here: http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/STXI-Enterprise.php

More elevations coming soon...

 

[ancient]

websites aren't canon.

Anyway, the ship itself doesn't have any really clear size. doing a deck fit is impossible, because there is no rule that the decks all have to be the same thickness. The Engineering deck looked about 30-40 feet high, but some of the corridors could've fit into an 8 foot deck. The bridge and shuttle hangar only give a general size, and their proportions in relation to the rest of the ship aren't very clear based off of fan models. I imagine 2000 feet could work though.

How many people were fired for making this? : http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/05/enterprise-vs-bsg3.jpg

 

[EJD1984]

Are we already forgetting the new dimension given in this Article stating the NuE is 2000ft (609m).

I know there's been some grumbling about using the Tobias Richter graphic, but it seems to be the best that we have now for scaling comparison purposes.

You might want to check out:
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(alternate_reality)
before you reference non canon sites.

Studio Daily may not be a Star Trek "canon" site, but it is an official interview with someone that worked on the production, and has first hand knowledge of the ILM CG Enterprise.

So this is as official as we're getting for now.

 

[Mangledduk]

Are we already forgetting the new dimension given in this Article stating the NuE is 2000ft (609m).

I know there's been some grumbling about using the Tobias Richter graphic, but it seems to be the best that we have now for scaling comparison purposes.

You might want to check out:
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(alternate_reality)
before you reference non canon sites.

Studio Daily may not be a Star Trek "canon" site, but it is an official interview with someone that worked on the production, and has first hand knowledge of the ILM CG Enterprise.

So this is as official as we're getting for now.

Agreed...that quote is from the freaking Model supervisor for ILM.

 

[seekertwo]

And fourthed. 762 meters she is.

That puts the New Enterprise at about the same length as the Acclimator troopships in SW:AOTC.....

...maybe someone could scale them both using the average height of a Clone Trooper to confirm?.....

 

[RobertoRoss]

Its the only thing ive ever disliked about Star Trek was the small size of nearly all the ships, no way would 400/500 etc people be able to live five years on a ship 300m long with some parts used up by engines/nacelles/storage....Silly!
I for one am very happy that the sizes are now much more feasible.

 

[miraclefan]

Its the only thing ive ever disliked about Star Trek was the small size of nearly all the ships, no way would 400/500 etc people be able to live five years on a ship 300m long with some parts used up by engines/nacelles/storage....Silly!
I for one am very happy that the sizes are now much more feasible.

Same here! But the question NOW is, is it TOO big?

 

[darkwing_duck1]

I can't believe this discussion is still raging. What happened to the cease fire several pages back?!

Apparently it turned into a Palestinian Cease Fire...stop shooting long enough to reequip and resupply...

 

[darkwing_duck1]

A 700-something meter or 900-something meter length doesn't match the viewscreen width.

Please explain why you think it doesn't match

Ok.

The view screen is 28+ feet at 725 meters. At 900 meters the viewscreen would be 35+ feet. My living room is 30 feet long; I can tell you, that veiwscreen, as presented in the movie isn't 28+ feet in length. If they wanted the ship to be that long, then the viewscreen/window on the front of the saucer should be smaller to match the bridge set.

Whether it "matches" or not is irrelevant. There was a scaling change on the model mid-production.

 

[ATimson]

Its the only thing ive ever disliked about Star Trek was the small size of nearly all the ships, no way would 400/500 etc people be able to live five years on a ship 300m long with some parts used up by engines/nacelles/storage....Silly!

Not really. I'd be very surprised if, taking a rectangular box bounding the original Connie's overhead view, and overlaying that onto a typical suburban city, you didn't get at least 400 people living there, in a volume under 150,000 cubic meters (with the ship traditionally cited at around 200,000 cubic meters from what I can find).

I for one am very happy that the sizes are now much more feasible.

They're only more feasible if you keep the crew compliment the same as on the smaller ships. There's no reason to believe the larger Enterprise wouldn't have a crew compliment in the 800-1000s like the Kelvin or similarly-sized Enterprise-D.

 

[SonicRanger]

They're only more feasible if you keep the crew compliment the same as on the smaller ships. There's no reason to believe the larger Enterprise wouldn't have a crew compliment in the 800-1000s like the Kelvin or similarly-sized Enterprise-D.

Double the length is eight times the volume.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

Newsflash: Memory Alpha is not a "canon" site. It is better if you don't operate under the mistaken impression that it is.

more canon then his site

MA has the tightest canon policy on the internet. If it ain't sourced to an acutal ON SCREEN element, it get's tossed. They have an excellent team of editor/mods that ensure policy is followed.

Background information (from production sources) is kept separate, as is "apocrypha" (other source information).

 

[darkwing_duck1]

websites aren't canon.

In and of themselves, no, but MA only allows canon information to be input in their articles.