I think so, though I've never made a poll so I can't help you. but I know you can put a poll in after you start a thread.
Who of you changed your minds?
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I think so, though I've never made a poll so I can't help you. but I know you can put a poll in after you start a thread.
Indranee, your using Sam's old avatar is confusing the hell out of my poor, fried-up brain.
I thought they would try to hard to keep it like TOS and keep those fans happy, but no. The characters where changed somewhat I guess but I think it was an improvement. Especially if it brought in fans like some are claiming.
I was a little anoyed that "my" favorite trek had been passed over for old school trek, but I gave it a shot anyway. I didn't regret it, it was fun and they where willing to go places previous trek people wouldn't, no reset and all that. So I guess the movie was better than I thought it would be.
I was a little anoyed that "my" favorite trek had been passed over for old school trek, but I gave it a shot anyway. I didn't regret it, it was fun and they where willing to go places previous trek people wouldn't, no reset and all that. So I guess the movie was better than I thought it would be.
While I was expecting to like the movie I had doubts that I could accept this movie as being part of Trek canon. I felt like I would only be able to enjoy it as a reboot. I'm now able to see it as part of the established Trek lore,that is simply taking place now in a divergent timeline. The actors looking different I see it simply as a visual overhaul. I did think I would like Nero better as a villian. That was one change for the worst. I felt he was just kind of there.
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oh, sorry!
Sam only comes in here every once in a while now...
besides, I'm gonna try and get Squiggy or urbandk to apply their considerable 'shop skills to make me a nuKirk and nuSpock for that pic soon
That would help.
Karl Urban was a blond human warrior in LotR, not an elf.
I expected to like the movie a lot and it was more fun than I could have hoped. I was amazed that so few details of the script were leaked. I expected it to do well at the box office, but am thrilled it surpassed expectations all along the way. I expected the pro critics to give it a good grading, but was astounded by how many gave it 4 or 5 out of five stars.
I was also very unsure about this film after seeing the trailers. On one hand, I thought the idea of re-booting the original Trek with new actors was pretty much the ONLY way to bring back the franchise, if one had to bring it back at all. But some aspects of the trailers were a bit "gung-ho" for my taste, and made the film seem remeniscint of movies like the recent Transformers, which I loathed.
I enjoyed the film thoroughly when I went to see it - it did have a sense of humour and a lot of action, but it also had intelligence and great character interaction, not to mention a couple of nice surprises.
I enjoyed the film thoroughly when I went to see it - it did have a sense of humour and a lot of action, but it also had intelligence and great character interaction, not to mention a couple of nice surprises.
Oh yeah. He was Eomer. I knew that, but he just popped into my head with the blond wig.
I had major problems with the actors they'd cast for the parts, with the exception of Cho. I had seen him in person during panels at South By Southwest and I could tell by his demeanor that he was perfect for Sulu.
The one I had the most problem with was Urban (Oh, God- did I ever!) since he looked nothing like Mc Coy or Kelley and I pretty much thought putting that blond dude from LOTR in Mc Coy's role was sacrilege. I was ready for him to drag the movie down, but I kept my mouth shut since casting directors have proved me wrong several times in the past.
I was really glad when I saw the "Disease and Danger" trailer, since he won me over within about 3 seconds. I love to be proven wrong in situations like that.
The one I had the most problem with was Urban (Oh, God- did I ever!) since he looked nothing like Mc Coy or Kelley and I pretty much thought putting that blond dude from LOTR in Mc Coy's role was sacrilege. I was ready for him to drag the movie down, but I kept my mouth shut since casting directors have proved me wrong several times in the past.
I was really glad when I saw the "Disease and Danger" trailer, since he won me over within about 3 seconds. I love to be proven wrong in situations like that.
The reason you think the movie is "low-brow" is that you only saw it once, and you missed most of its deeper meanings. It's reasonable not to like the movie, as that's a matter of taste; but to call it "low-brow" just shows you didn't understand it.
Re: Which of you changed your minds?
Not sure how to answer. I was relatively unspoiled, very wary, and not expecting much until about mid April which is when I saw the March trailer. I had been trying really hard to stomp on expectations, and then it was "Holy shit this looks, just maybe, like they nailed it. MAYBE." So then I was even more wary because I couldn't keep from hoping just a little.
I loved STXI. All of it. Seen it six times and will see it several more times before it closes. The cast, the script, the humor, just enough references to the money lines and bits from TOS (all of which felt organic to me). Losing Amanda and Vulcan hurt, but I understand why they did it.
My defination of relatively unspoiled ... I knew it was a reboot, it was the Academy origin story, and it had Nimoy playing Spock Prime back in the Academy days. Also, probably unlike most people here, I hadn't see any of the cast in something else.
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Totally boggled to find out that was Urban in the Bourne Supremacy!
Not sure how to answer. I was relatively unspoiled, very wary, and not expecting much until about mid April which is when I saw the March trailer. I had been trying really hard to stomp on expectations, and then it was "Holy shit this looks, just maybe, like they nailed it. MAYBE." So then I was even more wary because I couldn't keep from hoping just a little.
I loved STXI. All of it. Seen it six times and will see it several more times before it closes. The cast, the script, the humor, just enough references to the money lines and bits from TOS (all of which felt organic to me). Losing Amanda and Vulcan hurt, but I understand why they did it.
My defination of relatively unspoiled ... I knew it was a reboot, it was the Academy origin story, and it had Nimoy playing Spock Prime back in the Academy days. Also, probably unlike most people here, I hadn't see any of the cast in something else.
Edited to add:
Totally boggled to find out that was Urban in the Bourne Supremacy!
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Like some others, I took a "wait-and-see" approach, though I've been a Trek fan longer than most of the cast members have lived. (I'm 54 these days) I saw some of the commercials and I'd heard the rumors about changing the timeline, so I didn't know what to think.
Someone who's connected to Paramount wrote me an email and asked if I and my club (the U.S.S. Chesapeake) would like to go to a preview of the film 10 days in advance. I was totally blown away by all the action and excitement. The only scene I would have taken out is when Scotty beams into a water tube. I didn't see what that added to the film. Sure, Kirk rescued him, but he'd do that for anyone else on the ship.
Looking at the characters, Zachary Qunito was born to have pointed ears, the new McCoy was just as excitable as De Kelley. I did think Chekov was a bit too young and I would have preferred Andy Bray (who played Chekov in a number of Phase 2 series), but that didn't turn out badly.
The one I'm having the most trouble accepting just happens to be my favorite: Captain Kirk. I know they didn't want to get someone based on his similarities to Shatner and I understand they started him with room to grow and mature into the Kirk Shatner played. I didn't think much of them playing young Kirk as a skirt chaser since that's a myth.
Still, it took me a while to warm up to Jim Cawley (who plays Kirk in the Phase 2 episodes), and I've seen this movie three times and want to go back for a fourth. if only IMAX had held it over for just one more week!
Someone who's connected to Paramount wrote me an email and asked if I and my club (the U.S.S. Chesapeake) would like to go to a preview of the film 10 days in advance. I was totally blown away by all the action and excitement. The only scene I would have taken out is when Scotty beams into a water tube. I didn't see what that added to the film. Sure, Kirk rescued him, but he'd do that for anyone else on the ship.
Looking at the characters, Zachary Qunito was born to have pointed ears, the new McCoy was just as excitable as De Kelley. I did think Chekov was a bit too young and I would have preferred Andy Bray (who played Chekov in a number of Phase 2 series), but that didn't turn out badly.
The one I'm having the most trouble accepting just happens to be my favorite: Captain Kirk. I know they didn't want to get someone based on his similarities to Shatner and I understand they started him with room to grow and mature into the Kirk Shatner played. I didn't think much of them playing young Kirk as a skirt chaser since that's a myth.
Still, it took me a while to warm up to Jim Cawley (who plays Kirk in the Phase 2 episodes), and I've seen this movie three times and want to go back for a fourth. if only IMAX had held it over for just one more week!
Yea, it really was for me. Between that and his mom, it just felt so sad at the end. I kind of knew there wouldn't be a reset, but still... did they have to do it?
*sigh*
Oh well, at least 10,000 made it. Though I wish it was +1 and Spock's mom was there. I think Vulcan was traumatic enough... his mom could have made it.
Gotta agree with this poster. Great marketing and slickly put together trailers made me really want to see this film.
Having seen it, I can only use the analogy of fast food to describe it - it arrived in great packaging, but when consumed it offered only empty calories and left me craving something more substantial.
Hopefully they'll get the next one right.
This was a pop-corn flick, and nothing more. Rest assured, I didn't miss any of the deeper meanings that I was so very much hoping to see.
But, in the event that you're right and I did miss something (highly unlikely given the sloppy writing [probably due to the writers' strike]) I'll give the movie a second showing when my friend buys it on DVD and invites me over to watch. For now, though, I'm not adding any more of my money to nuTrek's success.
I expected to enjoy the film. After watching it twice, I changed my mind, and now say that this is a GREAT Star Trek movie, and I love it.
I just saw the film today.
I have made a point of staying away from all Trek related websites recently to prevent spoiling the film for myself.
Firstly, let me say, the cast were amazing. Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Uhura, Scotty, they all came together really well.
The action and pacing was very well done, it was really edge of your seat stuff.
The plot is where I had issues. As previously stated, I avoided Trek websites before the release, so I walked in with little knowledge of the story. I expected it to be a 'fill the gap' movie, telling a story of how the crew came together but fitting in with established Trek lore.
Instead, the events of the story violated Trek lore. The destruction of Vulcan and death of Amanda? What sort of a story is that?
The timeline has been irrevocably altered, and the saga of Star Trek will now unfold differently. Where does that leave the established movies and hundreds of television episodes that followed?
I cannot condone such a violation of Trek lore. These were the stories that I grew up with. During some dark times in my teenage years, I fondly remember being able to come home and watch Star Trek in all it's forms. It was one of the few bright points of those years.
'Star Trek' is a fine film and the cast and crew deserve many accolades, but I cannot agree with the story choices that were made. It is not Star Trek as I know it.
I will go on and see the sequels, and probably enjoy them, but they are not Star Trek. It is a different story under the same name. The Star Trek that I know has all but finished, and I don't think that anyone will change my mind about that.
I have made a point of staying away from all Trek related websites recently to prevent spoiling the film for myself.
Firstly, let me say, the cast were amazing. Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Uhura, Scotty, they all came together really well.
The action and pacing was very well done, it was really edge of your seat stuff.
The plot is where I had issues. As previously stated, I avoided Trek websites before the release, so I walked in with little knowledge of the story. I expected it to be a 'fill the gap' movie, telling a story of how the crew came together but fitting in with established Trek lore.
Instead, the events of the story violated Trek lore. The destruction of Vulcan and death of Amanda? What sort of a story is that?
The timeline has been irrevocably altered, and the saga of Star Trek will now unfold differently. Where does that leave the established movies and hundreds of television episodes that followed?
I cannot condone such a violation of Trek lore. These were the stories that I grew up with. During some dark times in my teenage years, I fondly remember being able to come home and watch Star Trek in all it's forms. It was one of the few bright points of those years.
'Star Trek' is a fine film and the cast and crew deserve many accolades, but I cannot agree with the story choices that were made. It is not Star Trek as I know it.
I will go on and see the sequels, and probably enjoy them, but they are not Star Trek. It is a different story under the same name. The Star Trek that I know has all but finished, and I don't think that anyone will change my mind about that.
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