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Padalecki and Ackles open to a sixth season of Supernatural
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I like that they are willing to do more than five seasons. But I rather the studio just end the show after five seasons and end things on a high note than extend the series a bit longer for the sake of making those in the audience who are unwilling to let go of the show happy. And I mean, do you really want a Smallville on your hands?
I wouldn't mind having them in my hands ... 
QFT. I adore Supernatural, but I'm very wary of the idea of sixth season. Where do you go after Lucifer is risen and (hopefully) defeated? Back to fighting minor monsters of the week? Dean now has the guilt of setting the apocalypse on its way by breaking the first seal in hell, and Sam bears the greater guilt of being Ruby's chump and letting Lucy out of his cage. Both have had major issues their entire lives. Once Lucifer is defeated, where do you go with their character arcs? Carry on My Wayward Son has been used before every season finale for a reason. Its lyrics are perfectly suited to the Winchesters--Carry on My Wayward Son. There'll be peace when you are done.
When Lucifer is defeated, that seems pretty "done" to me. How else can both brothers find any peace? What stories do you write for them afterwards? Have them get girlfriends and get married? That's not what this show is about. Also, with Kim Manners gone and Kripke being gone after season five when his contract ends, I just can't see it maintaining its quality. What I'm afraid of is them drawing out the Lucifer arc artificially, or of the next show runner caving to Dawn O and her "suggestions" *cough add two hot young female love interests to cast cough* again in an effort to keep the cash cow going.
I don't want Supernatural to become the Lana Lang show. God forbid.
Ick.
I don't watch the show on a regular basis...it's always been one of those series that I feel the need to watch from the very begining. I have caught the last few episodes of Season Five including the awesome finale. I could see them playing out the Apocolypse storyline for a full season, Sam and Dean attempting to raise their own army for a climatic series ending battle against Lucifer next May.
Yeah this really confirms the fact that the studio can insist on a season 6 and not have to shell out a lot to keep the actors (Kripke might be different). ANd frankly I don't know if they want a season 6, but at this stage it really isn't wise for younger actors to not honor their contracts.
as for the Lucifer Arc, I would assume that if it looks like a season 6 is in the cards then Lucifer will be around for two seasons (like Lilith and Azazel), though thats just a guess.
as for the Lucifer Arc, I would assume that if it looks like a season 6 is in the cards then Lucifer will be around for two seasons (like Lilith and Azazel), though thats just a guess.
This is CW. They'll need something after Smallville ends to go on five more seasons too long...
Then, quite frankly, I hope the CW goes bankrupt. It's not like I give a darn about any other show on the network, certainly not two whiny hairless teenaged vampire brothers fighting over a girl. 
Yes, that's the plot of Vampire Diaries.
Word through the grapevine from a blogger who's actually in a position to have some inside information is that Ackles and Padalecki both really, really don't want to do a sixth season. They're physically exhausted with the hours they have to put in, (12 to 15 hour days at a stretch would exhaust anybody) they don't trust anyone but Kripke to run the show well, and they both want the show to end while it's still good. They're playing the verbal volleyball game now to maintain good PR for themselves and the show--so as not to appear to be ungrateful brats and all that. It's not that they've gotten the big heads, it's just that too much has happened with Manners dying and Kripke certain to leave and all. They both recognize that to draw out the Lucifer arc to yet another season will kill the impact and they'd like to have some sort of post Supernatural careers. Kripke was ready to wrap it all up this season if he wasn't renewed. He had to hold back. He really shouldn't have to hold back again and then hand the Lucifer story over to someone else with two exhausted actors who are forced to stay playing the lead roles. I"m sure Padalecki and Ackles will be professionals about it if they're forced to stay (wouldn't that be just typical of Dawn O after ignoring the show for years?) but I can't help but think it'll show on screen.
Yes, that's the plot of Vampire Diaries. Word through the grapevine from a blogger who's actually in a position to have some inside information is that Ackles and Padalecki both really, really don't want to do a sixth season. They're physically exhausted with the hours they have to put in, (12 to 15 hour days at a stretch would exhaust anybody) they don't trust anyone but Kripke to run the show well, and they both want the show to end while it's still good. They're playing the verbal volleyball game now to maintain good PR for themselves and the show--so as not to appear to be ungrateful brats and all that. It's not that they've gotten the big heads, it's just that too much has happened with Manners dying and Kripke certain to leave and all. They both recognize that to draw out the Lucifer arc to yet another season will kill the impact and they'd like to have some sort of post Supernatural careers. Kripke was ready to wrap it all up this season if he wasn't renewed. He had to hold back. He really shouldn't have to hold back again and then hand the Lucifer story over to someone else with two exhausted actors who are forced to stay playing the lead roles. I"m sure Padalecki and Ackles will be professionals about it if they're forced to stay (wouldn't that be just typical of Dawn O after ignoring the show for years?) but I can't help but think it'll show on screen.
None of that matters, there will be a sixth season, CW doesn't care if the show sucks as long as they like the ratings.
If there is a contract for 6 seasons and that's how many there will be, no way the show will be dropped now.
If I were the creator i would just finish the show and have the "season" finale be the series finale. If CW wants to wreck the show he can come out and say "Only watch the first 5 seasons", nbo harm down.
If there is a contract for 6 seasons and that's how many there will be, no way the show will be dropped now.
If I were the creator i would just finish the show and have the "season" finale be the series finale. If CW wants to wreck the show he can come out and say "Only watch the first 5 seasons", nbo harm down.
Heh, there's your villain for season 6. Who else could they get that's scarier than the Devil?
Too true, Rowan Sjet, too true. If I were Kripke I'd kill off both characters in heroic, spectacular fashion and leave the new creator to write himself/herself out of the mess. It just galls me that now the CW seems to pay attention to the show, when the CW is in trouble. NickC says the network is projected to lose $100 million dollars in the '09-'10 season and that unless the Vampire Diaries and the new Melrose Place are huge, break out hits by regular network standards that the CW won't exist by the '10-'11 season. Don't get me wrong, I'd love the show to continue for more seasons, but there's no way for it to continue and be high quality with the premise/set up and the gradual crescendo of the story arc to Lucifer's rise.
That won't happen Dorian for two reasons.
If I were Kripke I'd kill off both characters in heroic, spectacular fashion and leave the new creator to write himself/herself out of the mess. It just galls me that now the CW seems to pay attention to the show, when the CW is in trouble. NickC says the network is projected to lose $100 million dollars in the '09-'10 season and that unless the Vampire Diaries and the new Melrose Place are huge, break out hits by regular network standards that the CW won't exist by the '10-'11 season. Don't get me wrong, I'd love the show to continue for more seasons, but there's no way for it to continue and be high quality with the premise/set up and the gradual crescendo of the story arc to Lucifer's rise.
1. The CW does approve all storylines and scripts. Now under normal circumstances they are more worried (on the day to day side) in making sure that it meets their standards so as not to push violence, sex or dialogue beyond what they deem acceptable. But the network's usually take far greater notice when a show is getting ready to change hands. I would expect them to seriously go over the last few scripts to avoid any such thing occurring.
2. Kripke's boss is the Cw. He was hired to produce the material the CW is looking for. By directly trying to sabotage their efforts (which is exactly how they would see it, and is accurate since he is their employee), he would ruin his reputation. Certainly never get the opportunity to marshall a show again. And beyond just network tv he could very well get black listed by studio system for films as well as working as a staff writer.
If the show does plan a series hard ending, the studio at the very least will get the writers (not just Kripke but their other employees) to give outlines for what they envision for the 6th season. Its a fairly standard practice.
Seriously to even suggest that a executive producer should basically screw the future of the show he is working on, is just staggering. Supernatural, while his premise, is not his. He is hired with the absolutely understanding that this venture is the WB (now the CW) and warners. And while the CW has not promoted the show, it really with the exception of Bela (and perhaps the cinematography of season 3), has left the show alone. Its been aloud to push further then they ever dreamed they would be able to both graphically and in story lines.
And while we can bitch about the budget cuts, the truth of the matter is that (before this year) it hasn't been a big revenue generator for the CW (in relation to what the other renewed shows generated). It has generated strong revenue in other sources but those aren't the CW they are specifically Warners. And Warners absolutely can produce the show at a price higher then what the CW charges. While it isn't a common practice it does happen (each and every year).
As for the story lines, well frankly I disagree. I think with decent planning they can gradually have Lucifer build unto an ending for a six season. It all depends on the writing. This isn't Buffy (thank God) a season arc isn't dependent on a the creation and defeat of a big bad. In fact for the most part the show hasn't done that. Its usually been more character involved events.
While it is a very series possibility that the CW could fold (the reality is that the show thanks to being on the WB and then the CW has always been in serious danger of being cancelled not by its own performance but by the collaspe of its broadcast network).
But I have said, and even the actors have stated this, that they (being the network) should have a good idea about its future really by the end of November sweeps. THat gives a show plenty of time to wrap things up, or to keep things in motion.
As for Kripke, I honestly don't see him leaving his creation. This isn't the X-Files, or Smallville to popular comparisons for shows that lived long after the show had lost its quality. With the knowledge that neither actor is really looking forward to extended their contracts, I can see Kripke sticking with the show for another year.
As to the future of the CW, at the very worst (well not the very worst it could happen mid season, which has happened in the cable market), there are other avenues that Warners could use if they deemed it necessary to give the show better closure.
Duff.
And we aren't talking about screwing the show, we are talking about ending the show and making CW figure out how they would like to continue it.
Plus what happens if they tell them they want a 6th season now, he extends the storylines to two seasons instead of one and then it turns out the show will end with the fifth season because CW went bye-bye?
And we aren't talking about screwing the show, we are talking about ending the show and making CW figure out how they would like to continue it.
Plus what happens if they tell them they want a 6th season now, he extends the storylines to two seasons instead of one and then it turns out the show will end with the fifth season because CW went bye-bye?
Precisely. That's why I hate, hate, hate this nebulous future. CW continuing or not, (NickC keeps insisting bankruptcy is imminent) not having a specific end date is going to screw with the story. I hear what you're saying, mswood, but I don't think it would be that bad for Kripke in the long run to be true to his vision if he writes a complete story. If he wants to kill off the brothers, the CW could hire writers to continue with new characters. Yes, that would be crap because the Winchesters are more intrinsic to the show's sucess than the plotlines and action, but the CW would get it's sixth season. True, the show isn't a revenue generator for CW, but it is for Warner Studios. They're too different entities. Warner having a sixth season to sell overseas would be all that matters to those greedy so and sos.
They as in Ackles and Padalecki? I know they've both turned down other offers. Padalecki mentioned at this last con that he was wanted for the lead in GI Joe, which comes out later in the summer. Not that GI Joe is the greatest thing ever--it's a high budget action flick, but the point is that they are getting offers. More so than a Tom Welling, anyway. I'd be surprised if both didn't continue to get work in films or television in other series.
If the CW wants a sixth season (and survives to run it) then they won't allow the characters to be killed off, or they'd let them be killed off and then have them resurrected in a sixth season. And P & A would be contractually obligated to go along with it.
Yeah, but killing them both off and resurrecting them yet again wouldn't exactly help the credibility of the show. Darnit--this potential sixth season business is ticking me off. Jared wanted to take the lead in that movie. He just couldn't because of his schedule. Five years is a great run for any show. If they're turning down roles in movies, doing a sixth season is going to be a great frustration for them both.
Whoops--this isn't going to help the "only five seasons campaign." Great review of season four from the Lynchburg News Advance, and there's plenty more of these great reviews of the season floating around. This isn't just a list of best and worst genre television--it's best and worst television.
2008-2009 season's best and worst of television
Best guest star: Misha Collins as “Supernatural’s” poker-faced angel Castiel
Best storyline: Sam and a just-back-from-Hell Dean’s race to stop the Devil from rising on “Supernatural,“ with plenty of angel- versus-demon drama and some great reveals about the Winchesters’ heritage along the way — like the fact that it was the boys’ mother who actually came from a family of demon hunters; their father got into the trade after her untimely death).
Whoops--this isn't going to help the "only five seasons campaign." Great review of season four from the Lynchburg News Advance, and there's plenty more of these great reviews of the season floating around. This isn't just a list of best and worst genre television--it's best and worst television.
2008-2009 season's best and worst of television
Best guest star: Misha Collins as “Supernatural’s” poker-faced angel Castiel
Best storyline: Sam and a just-back-from-Hell Dean’s race to stop the Devil from rising on “Supernatural,“ with plenty of angel- versus-demon drama and some great reveals about the Winchesters’ heritage along the way — like the fact that it was the boys’ mother who actually came from a family of demon hunters; their father got into the trade after her untimely death).
But both actors know from the get go (when they originally signed) that they would lose out roles and jobs due to working a series.
In fact its a double edged sword, both actors have both improved dramatically, increased their awareness in the industry and became more sought after due to their work over these last four years.
So I don't really feel to much pain for them in losing roles that very likely might not have been offered to them if it wasn't for the work they were currently doing.
And seriously, the studio (if they want it to continue) would not allow Kripke (or any of the staff) to write an ending for season 5 where the leads are both killed.
Simply wouldn't happen.
I do admit (and Dorian can certainly attest at least going back as far as the start of the 2nd season) that I have dread each and every year that the show would get cancelled (both at the end of each season and even at the midpoints), so I certainly understand the fear (especially now when we have gotten to a point where the show could reasonably end) that the producers would be asked mid season to extend the show to last to through a sixth season, and then for the cw to fail either before a 6ht season or even mid point of a sixth season.
While it wouldn't automatically mean the end of the show, it is very rare that shows do continue after they lose their network.
I mean were on a Trek board so lets use Trek as an example. Patrick Stewart was a fairly unknown for the US actor yet gained tremendous awareness in both the public and the industry's eyes due to Next Generation (and unlike the guys probably didn't improve his craft much during that time). Yet he was well aware that because of Trek he was getting offers he never would have received before, and was also not able to take most of those offers due to his tv shooting schedule.
In fact its a double edged sword, both actors have both improved dramatically, increased their awareness in the industry and became more sought after due to their work over these last four years.
So I don't really feel to much pain for them in losing roles that very likely might not have been offered to them if it wasn't for the work they were currently doing.
And seriously, the studio (if they want it to continue) would not allow Kripke (or any of the staff) to write an ending for season 5 where the leads are both killed.
Simply wouldn't happen.
I do admit (and Dorian can certainly attest at least going back as far as the start of the 2nd season) that I have dread each and every year that the show would get cancelled (both at the end of each season and even at the midpoints), so I certainly understand the fear (especially now when we have gotten to a point where the show could reasonably end) that the producers would be asked mid season to extend the show to last to through a sixth season, and then for the cw to fail either before a 6ht season or even mid point of a sixth season.
While it wouldn't automatically mean the end of the show, it is very rare that shows do continue after they lose their network.
I mean were on a Trek board so lets use Trek as an example. Patrick Stewart was a fairly unknown for the US actor yet gained tremendous awareness in both the public and the industry's eyes due to Next Generation (and unlike the guys probably didn't improve his craft much during that time). Yet he was well aware that because of Trek he was getting offers he never would have received before, and was also not able to take most of those offers due to his tv shooting schedule.
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