Really the issue isn't the total, but the distribution. Star Trek is doing about 70/30 domestic vs foreign, and the numbers for big-budget summer blockbusters usually end up more like 50/50. Nodoby has yet explained why Star Trek shouldn't be following the blockbuster movie pattern.
As everyone seems to operate with the numbers from boxofficemojo.com, it's worth pointing out that the foreign grosses listed on this site aren't up-to-date or not even there, yet. So, it's abit premature to claim the movies's a failure outside North America. As already mentioned, it's doing very well in the UK.
Can't speak for Asia, but I'd say you greatly underestimate the success of Lost in Europe.Who in Asia or Europe has heard of "Lost?" or J.J. Abrams?![]()
However, only the UK and South Korea report numbesr as recent as May 24. Every other reporting country is lagging a week or two behind that and several large countries are not even listed, yet: China and Japan among them,
"Fringe" is going to debute in France this Wednesday and I'm going to have a look at the first episodes, it looks interesting. I've watched the 3/4 eps of "Lost" but got the feeling it wasn't going to get anywhere (as in we were never going to get all the answers) so I stopped.People are crazy about Lost around here, and I've met quite a few people who think Fringe is really cool.
Oh and just as an example, 3dMaster,
Here's one:There were no factual errors whatsoever.
"Defying all logic, Future Spock is willing to sacrifice a billion of his own people in order keep his existence a secret from his past self"
Erm, when did that happen?
Oh, you're right! I was wrong. Spock when he was dumped on Delta Vega, he immediately set out to reach the Starfleet outpost, he reached it, and told Scotty his tale. Scotty contacted Starfleet, and with proper warning Starfleet - and a raised eyebrow from younger Spock at seeing his old self in the view creen - destroyed the Narada (sp?) and saved Vulcan!
He most certainly did not stuff himself in a cave doing nothing, except to get out and look with regret at the destruction of his planet, and then went to wait longer until he met Kirk, and only THEN set out for the Starfleet outpost - because you know, Kirk not being the captain of the Enterprise is so much more important than the destruction his home world.
Hold on a moment...
Oh, yeah!
Oh and just as an example, 3dMaster,
Here's one:
"Defying all logic, Future Spock is willing to sacrifice a billion of his own people in order keep his existence a secret from his past self"
Erm, when did that happen?
Oh, you're right! I was wrong. Spock when he was dumped on Delta Vega, he immediately set out to reach the Starfleet outpost, he reached it, and told Scotty his tale. Scotty contacted Starfleet, and with proper warning Starfleet - and a raised eyebrow from younger Spock at seeing his old self in the view creen - destroyed the Narada (sp?) and saved Vulcan!
He most certainly did not stuff himself in a cave doing nothing, except to get out and look with regret at the destruction of his planet, and then went to wait longer until he met Kirk, and only THEN set out for the Starfleet outpost - because you know, Kirk not being the captain of the Enterprise is so much more important than the destruction his home world.
Hold on a moment...
Oh, yeah!
You have no idea whatsoever how long before destroying Vulcan Nero dumped Spock on Delta Vega. It could have been less than 20 minutes. Given the travel time the Enterprise, over a century less advanced displays between the two and the fact that Vulcan is visible in the sky of Delta Vega, the Narada could probably have made it from one to the other in under half an hour. Spock saw the destruction of his planet, so its no surprise he went for a big cry in a cave. By that point it was too late. Nowhere does the film say or imply that Spock was 'willing to let his own people die' to 'stop his younger self finding out about him'. In fact it seemed quite clear that he just made that up once he'd met Kirk and found out how the timeline had changed things between Kirk and his younger self. He couldn't save Vulcan at that point, but he could try and restore another important part of his own past - his friendship with Kirk.
Wolverine is not really comparable. It had Huge Jackman, so the entire female population of the world will go to see it. Ask them anything about the plot and they'll say 'what plot?'
Of course. And Star Trek has hot chicks in their underwear so that's why the entire male population of the world runs to see the movie.Wolverine is not really comparable. It had Huge Jackman, so the entire female population of the world will go to see it. Ask them anything about the plot and they'll say 'what plot?'
What ugly, inflammatory language, and how does that patronize and belittle people? You mean the few sentences about how horribly bad the new movie is? It's pretty much impossible to say how bad the movie is by calling it "great".
Maybe you should question why you feel patronized and belittled when someone calls this movie horrendously bad. It seems it's more to do with you, then with my words.
I assume the point was that kind of language.Seeing as everything in that movie review about to the movie is factually correct, and anyone with a functional mind must concede those factually correct points raised are bad; it rather does prove some things.
Yeah, right. I'd love to be as dowdy as herAs I mentioned elsewhere (and though I would never have thought so), in an interview Zoë said with all those male hotties running around the set, she actually felt a bit dowdy.
"Fringe" is going to debute in France this Wednesday and I'm going to have a look at the first episodes, it looks interesting. I've watched the 3/4 eps of "Lost" but got the feeling it wasn't going to get anywhere (as in we were never going to get all the answers) so I stopped.People are crazy about Lost around here, and I've met quite a few people who think Fringe is really cool.
I have to ask: does Abrams have a problem with planes, like aviophobia?
"Lost" begins with a plane crash, there seems to be a big problem during a plane flight in "Fringe" and, as far as I can remember, Bones didn't suffer from aviophobia in TOS and suddenly, this is added to his character. A reference to Abrams? It just hit me when I saw a TV trailer for "Fringe" this afternoon![]()
Me, too; I'm really enjoying your avatar.Yeah, right. I'd love to be as dowdy as her
Personnally, I would have felt hot and bothered on the set, not dowdy, but that's just me
Creeping me out, too; dying at sea is my #1 worst way of dying. Shivers. I can't stand the Titanic story. Or that plane that was rumored to have been hit by a rocket off New York. I'm also awed by historical accounts of galleons sinking in Caribbean hurricanes. No, thank you.That Air France affair is creeping me out, and I've boarded dozens of planes in my life.![]()
Yeah, right. I'd love to be as dowdy as herAs I mentioned elsewhere (and though I would never have thought so), in an interview Zoë said with all those male hotties running around the set, she actually felt a bit dowdy.
Personnally, I would have felt hot and bothered on the set, not dowdy, but that's just me![]()
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