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Star Trek tops $200 million

More great news! I'm hoping it will get to 250 mil, myself. Nice round number and all. ;)

As for it's competition, I believe Harry Potter is serious competition...but Transformers? Not as much. Transformers is most definitely a 'guy movie' sort of thing. Girls will go watch Star Trek...and girls will go watch Harry Potter...but the only girls who will go and watch Transformers are girls who get dragged by their boyfriends.

As girl scfi fans go, I'm reasonably serious - I try just about all the new scifi TV shows, saw all the LOTR, Matrix, Harry Potter, and PotC movies, etc... Went to see most of the X-Men movies, the Spidermans, etc. Even went to see Watchman (although admittedly it was mainly for Jeffrey Dean Morgan :p ). But I have no interest at all in going to see Transformers.
 
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ST will fall short of $250 million and I expect Harry to win the year outright by being possibly the only movie to break $300 million domestic and join the elite $1 billion club (just felt short last time). Transformers is harder to read because of the underperformances of Wolverine & Terminator...

Transformers 2 will match or exceed the oversea's gross from its 1st outing but as for U.S total it depends on word of mouth. A good movie will probably see it break $300 million and win the domestic race for 2009 ahead of Harry. However a mixed or negative bag like T-4 & Wolverine will probably see Transformers still hit $200 but could face a battle to beat Trek's looking $235-240 US total.

I see GI Whatever flopping bigtime and doubt it will break $100 million domestic and the same goes for oversea' s too. I can't think of any other big movies coming out over the remaining 6 months that could challenge ST, Harry and Transformers plus NaTm will probably fall short of $200 million too so we will have our top 3 but in what order is yet to be seen.
 
Transformers will definitely break $300 million, and Harry Potter should as well. They have not only the benefit of IMAX, but both have scenes filmed specifically for IMAX (like Dark Knight). HP has 3-D IMAX scenes on top of that. Transformers has been and continues to be the most anticipated movie of the year for most moviegoers (probably very few on this board).

Wolverine underperformed because of bad WOM. T4 underperformed because WB/Sony overestimated the popularity of the franchise without Arnold and thought they could slap Christian Bale into a movie not designed to focus on John Connor in the first place, and all would be good.

I expect the top grossers to be: Transformers 2, HP6, Avatar, with Star Trek and Up fighting for the #4 spot.
 
I expect the top grossers to be: Transformers 2, HP6, Avatar, with Star Trek and Up fighting for the #4 spot.

Avatar this christmas ? A film with such a high budget at a reported $240 million, I thought they really need a summer slot to recoup its money. Not heard much about Avatar despite Cameron I think thats a huge flop waiting to happen (it will make bucks but the budget is going to kill it).

I think TREK is a good fit for 3rd place domestically.
 
I expect the top grossers to be: Transformers 2, HP6, Avatar, with Star Trek and Up fighting for the #4 spot.

Avatar this christmas ? A film with such a high budget at a reported $240 million, I thought they really need a summer slot to recoup its money. Not heard much about Avatar despite Cameron I think thats a huge flop waiting to happen (it will make bucks but the budget is going to kill it).

I think TREK is a good fit for 3rd place domestically.

They said the same thing about Cameron's last movie. ;) Incidentally, Avatar is opening on the exact same weekend Titanic did. I'm not saying Avatar will make anywhere near that, but I do think it will get close to $300 million.

The mere fact that the film is designed for IMAX 3D and looks to have at least a good 3 months on IMAX screens, and that equals a lot of money.
 
I expect the top grossers to be: Transformers 2, HP6, Avatar, with Star Trek and Up fighting for the #4 spot.

Avatar this christmas ? A film with such a high budget at a reported $240 million, I thought they really need a summer slot to recoup its money. Not heard much about Avatar despite Cameron I think thats a huge flop waiting to happen (it will make bucks but the budget is going to kill it).

I think TREK is a good fit for 3rd place domestically.

They said the same thing about Cameron's last movie. ;) Incidentally, Avatar is opening on the exact same weekend Titanic did. I'm not saying Avatar will make anywhere near that, but I do think it will get close to $300 million.

The mere fact that the film is designed for IMAX 3D and looks to have at least a good 3 months on IMAX screens, and that equals a lot of money.

I don't see the annoying mums/daughters rewatching this movie a dozen times ;). Cameron hook up with Ridley Scott and give me that epic Alien movie I've always wanted ;)

speakig of Aliens ain't Weaver and that dude who played Cpl Hicks in the Avatar movie.
 
Avatar this christmas ? A film with such a high budget at a reported $240 million, I thought they really need a summer slot to recoup its money. Not heard much about Avatar despite Cameron I think thats a huge flop waiting to happen (it will make bucks but the budget is going to kill it).

I think TREK is a good fit for 3rd place domestically.

They said the same thing about Cameron's last movie. ;) Incidentally, Avatar is opening on the exact same weekend Titanic did. I'm not saying Avatar will make anywhere near that, but I do think it will get close to $300 million.

The mere fact that the film is designed for IMAX 3D and looks to have at least a good 3 months on IMAX screens, and that equals a lot of money.

I don't see the annoying mums/daughters rewatching this movie a dozen times ;). Cameron hook up with Ridley Scott and give me that epic Alien movie I've always wanted ;)

speakig of Aliens ain't Weaver and that dude who played Cpl Hicks in the Avatar movie.

I don't expect him to go back to Alien, especially since someone is developing a prequel to that now too.

The cast for Avatar is Sam Worthington (one of the bright spots of T4), Zoe Saldana, Sigourney Weaver, and Michelle Rodriguez.

The concept art for the movie looks really cool so far.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/41217
 
They said the same thing about Cameron's last movie. ;) Incidentally, Avatar is opening on the exact same weekend Titanic did. I'm not saying Avatar will make anywhere near that, but I do think it will get close to $300 million.

The mere fact that the film is designed for IMAX 3D and looks to have at least a good 3 months on IMAX screens, and that equals a lot of money.

I don't see the annoying mums/daughters rewatching this movie a dozen times ;). Cameron hook up with Ridley Scott and give me that epic Alien movie I've always wanted ;)

speakig of Aliens ain't Weaver and that dude who played Cpl Hicks in the Avatar movie.

I don't expect him to go back to Alien, especially since someone is developing a prequel to that now too.

The cast for Avatar is Sam Worthington (one of the bright spots of T4), Zoe Saldana, Sigourney Weaver, and Michelle Rodriguez.

The concept art for the movie looks really cool so far.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/41217

whats plot ? seems weird but can't find anything about the plot.
 
With any luck, the next Harry Potter will bomb and Star Trek will be the best selling movie for 2009 :cool:
Both Transformers and Harry Potter will almost certainly make more money the Star Trek.

I understand Harry Potter, and probably Avatar, since it's had a lot of buzz for a long time, and it's a JC movie...

But I just don't get why everyone thinks Transformers is going to do that well. I've seen the trailer several times, and it does nothing for me. I was much more excited about the T4 trailer, and had intended to go see it, but the bad WOM convinced me to pass and wait for the DVD.

I really think that Transformers will go the same route as T4 and Wolverine--handsome looking films in the trailers and commercials, lots of hype and expectation, and then--well, nobody actually goes to see it.

Of course, I admit I could be wrong, NATM did much better than I thought it would.

I still say Trek can come in 2nd behind HP, depending on the WOM around Avatar(it's really a wild card this year, could go either way. Is it Titanic, or is it Waterworld?)
 
G.I. Joe won't. It looks like crap. They ruined the whole idea behind G.I. Joe by making them wear special suits that give them super strength and ability.

When I went to see Star Trek and the trailer for G.I.Joe played I remember someone yelling "WTF? Iron Man?" outloud.:rommie:

Yeah, people including me, laughed during the trailer.

They could have done a cool movie, but that trailer dashed my hopes.

So true. I went to see ST 6 times, and every time people laughed their arses off when the GI Joe trailer came. It looks soooo dumb. Transformers though looks cool, but hey, I'll go see anything with that actor in it, so.... :rolleyes:

As for HP, who cares how much money it makes? Trek's a box office hit, and to me, that's all that matters. We're back. Squee.
 
Star Trek already beat out THREE heavy contenders. T4, Wolverine, and Monsters Vs. Aliens.

There are three more heavies inbound that I know of.
Transformers 2
Harry Potter
G.I. Joe

I can see all three breaking the $200 Mil mark.

G.I. Joe won't. It looks like crap. They ruined the whole idea behind G.I. Joe by making them wear special suits that give them super strength and ability.
I was extremely disappointed in the G.I. Joe previews too. Its hard to know what will resonate with the viewing public at large at given time though. It could be crapola, but still hit it big.

Regardless of how well other movies have performed, I think Star Trek has been hanging in there and doing fairly well. I'm just glad we are on track for a sequel. Now that the studio has got the bones in place, they might have even more luck reaching audiences next go around.
 
Avatar this christmas ? A film with such a high budget at a reported $240 million, I thought they really need a summer slot to recoup its money. Not heard much about Avatar despite Cameron I think thats a huge flop waiting to happen (it will make bucks but the budget is going to kill it).

I think TREK is a good fit for 3rd place domestically.

They said the same thing about Cameron's last movie. ;) Incidentally, Avatar is opening on the exact same weekend Titanic did. I'm not saying Avatar will make anywhere near that, but I do think it will get close to $300 million.

The mere fact that the film is designed for IMAX 3D and looks to have at least a good 3 months on IMAX screens, and that equals a lot of money.

I don't see the annoying mums/daughters rewatching this movie a dozen times ;). Cameron hook up with Ridley Scott and give me that epic Alien movie I've always wanted ;)

speakig of Aliens ain't Weaver and that dude who played Cpl Hicks in the Avatar movie.

uhh, annoying mums/daughters?!

[Scotty]laddie, dontcha think maybe ya oughta rephrase that?[\Scotty]
 
With any luck, the next Harry Potter will bomb and Star Trek will be the best selling movie for 2009 :cool:
Both Transformers and Harry Potter will almost certainly make more money the Star Trek.

I understand Harry Potter, and probably Avatar, since it's had a lot of buzz for a long time, and it's a JC movie...

But I just don't get why everyone thinks Transformers is going to do that well. I've seen the trailer several times, and it does nothing for me. I was much more excited about the T4 trailer, and had intended to go see it, but the bad WOM convinced me to pass and wait for the DVD.

I really think that Transformers will go the same route as T4 and Wolverine--handsome looking films in the trailers and commercials, lots of hype and expectation, and then--well, nobody actually goes to see it.

Of course, I admit I could be wrong, NATM did much better than I thought it would.

I still say Trek can come in 2nd behind HP, depending on the WOM around Avatar(it's really a wild card this year, could go either way. Is it Titanic, or is it Waterworld?)

The thing is that Up making $68 million opening weekend will likely be enough to push it ahead of Trek in the long run. Assuming it performs like previous Pixar films, it should make somewhere around $250-260 million.
 
Looking at box office takes over the last few years, the movies in the $225 million range end up around 4th, 5th, or 6th in domestic gross for a given year. A finish like that for Star Trek in 2009 would be on par with the franchise's other three big Trek hits.

-- TWOK was sixth in 1982 (the year ET made over $300 million). Tootsie was second, then An Officer and a Gentleman, Rocky III, and Porky's.
-- TVH was fifth in 1986. It was behind Top Gun, Crocodile Dundee, Platoon, and The Karate Kid, Part II.
-- TMP was beind Kramer vs. Kramer, The Amittyville Horror, and Rocky II in domestic gross.

In TNG movies:
-- FC was 17th in 1996.
-- GEN was 15th in 1994.
 
I went to see Transformers on my own, and probably am going to see the next one on my own as well, because the people who'd be willing to go with me are on the other side of trhe Channel.

So... there are girls who're going to see it without having to be dragged there by their boyfriends. But you're right, women do have more reasons to go see ST than Transformers.
 
I see GI Whatever flopping bigtime and doubt it will break $100 million domestic and the same goes for oversea' s too. I can't think of any other big movies coming out over the remaining 6 months that could challenge ST, Harry and Transformers plus NaTm will probably fall short of $200 million too so we will have our top 3 but in what order is yet to be seen.

GI Joe will do worse then Nemisis.
 
Looking at box office takes over the last few years, the movies in the $225 million range end up around 4th, 5th, or 6th in domestic gross for a given year. A finish like that for Star Trek in 2009 would be on par with the franchise's other three big Trek hits.

-- TWOK was sixth in 1982 (the year ET made over $300 million). Tootsie was second, then An Officer and a Gentleman, Rocky III, and Porky's.
-- TVH was fifth in 1986. It was behind Top Gun, Crocodile Dundee, Platoon, and The Karate Kid, Part II.
-- TMP was beind Kramer vs. Kramer, The Amittyville Horror, and Rocky II in domestic gross.

In TNG movies:
-- FC was 17th in 1996.
-- GEN was 15th in 1994.

Whoa, for the most part, I never realized the TOS movies were in such good company.

But 1982 leads me to believe it was a fairly crappy year for movies. Rocky III? Porky's? And don't get me started about 1986's Karate Kid Part II :)
 
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