No, it's a cliche because you see it in movies.
I prefered Nemesis
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No, it's a cliche because you see it in movies.
Let's not mention watching V8 Supercar races regularly, and never missing the Bathurst 1000, OK?
No. Because it isn't.
Fast cars are liked and purchased by people all over the world.
I think that is part of it actually. Cars offer us this great freedom to go where we want and where we need to go. Getting there in style is even more fun. As much as I love my Ford Mustang (another Ford nut here
) if I had access to Star Trek Shuttle Craft I don't think the Ford would be a transportation device anymore, but it would become a toy, kinda like when you go to a fair and get to ride some real horses. I'm sure that's what it would feel like.
Well I don't like them, I don't give a rats about them. But I do live in a country other than America and I know they are hardly an American thing. People like to bash Americans with this as though they are the only materialist, gas guzzling folks in the world but it is not so.
Lets not forget that corvette was an antique. I am sure little Kirk could have gotten his hands on way cooler and faster vehicles.
I think that is part of it actually. Cars offer us this great freedom to go where we want and where we need to go. Getting there in style is even more fun. As much as I love my Ford Mustang (another Ford nut here
I think that people who don't face a 70km round trip commute everyday(which would be most people who live on the fringes of Sydney and work in the CBD, if not further, for example), or a 95km round trip commute (my previous job) or a 100 km round trip to Uni, (2 of my sons) have no idea about the importance of cars.
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Well I don't like them, I don't give a rats about them. But I do live in a country other than America and I know they are hardly an American thing. People like to bash Americans with this as though they are the only materialist, gas guzzling folks in the world but it is not so.
Lets not forget that corvette was an antique. I am sure little Kirk could have gotten his hands on way cooler and faster vehicles.
I'm not in America either.
Had that boy been my son, well let's just say that he would NOT be sitting down for a week. I don;t generally believe in corporal punishment, however this would be the one situation that I would have no problem with the strap.
Well just for comparison, the C2 Corvette StingRay in the movie came with a base 360bhp with optional 375bhp.
The 2009 Corvette Z06 comes stock from the Factory with 505bhp
The "Toybox" Lingenfelter C5 Corvette had a staggering 1100hp, and very very few cars could match this horsepower in stock trim. Off the top of my head, maybe the Bugatti Veyron, and the SSC Ultimate Aero could do it.
No. Because it isn't.
Fast cars are liked and purchased by people all over the world.
Where's The Stig when you need him?
Just like how this new movie is a cliche of Star Trek eh?
No. Because it isn't.
Fast cars are liked and purchased by people all over the world.
Where's The Stig when you need him?
Road testing, of course - where else?
While listening to a casette tape of Hamlet in Klingon or something equally esoteric, no doubt.
While listening to a casette tape of Hamlet in Klingon or something equally esoteric, no doubt.
NOooo! Black Sabbath, Led Zepplin, Deep Purple, The Melbourne Shufflers or the collected works of David Williamson.
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Are you being intentionally obtuse here? The whole POINT of the Corvette was that it's an antique, not current tech.
As a guy who loves and got started on TOS and LOVES the new film, I'm seeing some people being way too harsh on the Berman era.
We got some GREAT Trek out of the Berman era. Did it go on too long and lose it's fire for various reasons? Yes.
But that era SAVED Trek and brought it back into the public conscience once again.
TNG and DS9 stand as some of the very best Trek ever produced and continued the proud tradition. Voyager and Ent both were losing it, but even they have merits.
ALL the Trek films, all of them, even the worst ones, have things about them, moments, that all fans can love.
TFF is truly a bad movie, period. But it does have character moments that are quite good. Nemesis I don't think is bad as many say here, but it did come across as mediocre episode with a BAD villain. Yes, far worse than Nero (who is pretty good, mainly because Bana is good).
Star Trek stands as one of the very best of Trek, film and otherwise. And Trek is back on the map in a big way.
Hangon. I question whether there was anything to "save" at that point. The most recent Trek film when TNG debuted was Trek IV, in 1986; the most popular movie in terms of box office and broad appeal at that time. Heck, it was partly due to Trek's huge popularity that got TNG on the air in the first place!
Perhaps. But TNG had an even broader and SUSTAINED effect on the bigger picture.
If TNG had not been on and popular/well regarded, TFF could possibly have sunk it.
But this revisionist hindsight about how the Berman era was all teh suxxorzzz is patently false.
If TNG had not been on and popular/well regarded, TFF could possibly have sunk it.
But this revisionist hindsight about how the Berman era was all teh suxxorzzz is patently false.
I gotta take exception with your saying TNG saved Trek. Trek wasn't this obscure thing that nobody was watching anymore. TNG didn't bring it to public attention. The movies were incredibly successful. Especially TVH which is what spurred Paramount into producing TNG in the first place. That and the fact that Classic Trek was huge in syndication along with I Love Lucy. It was playing everywhere. TNG saved nothing.
If anything the Star Trek name saved TNG in it's first two years. Say what you want about TFF but there was nothing in the first two years of TNG that was as good as TFF. That either says a lot about TFF or very little about TNG.
I don't think that would have been the case. I think most of TFF's box office woes were due to it's time of release. The summer of 89 was the biggest summer in movie history at that point in time. There have been bigger since but none before. The summer of 89 was the summer of Batman. It was the summer of the Last Crusade. It was the summer where we got Gibson, Glover and Pesci too. It was HUGE. GI-NORMOUS! No Trek movie, not even TVH could have competed. If anything TVH made Paramount a little overconfident.
If they had released TFF in the winter it would have ruled the Christmas roost. It even had a God theme to go with it. It was pure Christmas turkey!
I love that flick BTW but I know. I know. That's actually true. TNG was a decent show and hugely popular. DS9 was well largely well written. VOY and ENT were trainwrecks as were 3/3rds of the TNG movies.
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