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Lets talk about Helen Noel

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Ahh Helen Noel threads....you all love them, you love to read them, you love to join them, you love how they pop up all the time and embrace us, you could not really function without a Helen Noel thread, you need those Helen Noel threads, you want our Helen Noel threads, we cant live without our Helen Noel threads, you must have your Helen Noel thread...







And then...there gone.
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AAARRRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!Helen Noel threads!!!!!

:lol::lol:

I just watched this cracking episode on BRay last week and Marianna Hill looks stunning in HD.
 
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You're in the minority, I fear. Most of the males in here are not lusting after her brains, and I daresay, wouldn't care if the head had nothing in there but air. :lol:

And to be honest, many women on Star Trek had brains (and all had looks, they were actresses, so that goes with the territory,) but I've never seen the amount of "oh, she's so hot" for any woman in this forum as I have for Noel. And I truly don't get it. She's not the prettiest (or even the smartest) woman ever on Star Trek.

I guess men really are from Mars. :lol:

As for the Romulan Commander? No one stupid enough to put her duty aside for an alien (enemy) male would earn my respect. She's a pretty woman and of a neat race, but she broke Romulan rule #1, never do something that will be used against you.

But again, it was a 1960s production, and more often than not, women were often portrayed as giving everything up, or endangering themselves stupidly, for that SPECIAL MAN (who may or may not have real feelings for the woman.) Space Seed also had a smart, pretty and utterly stupid woman.
Interestingly enough in our favorite Romulan Commander has a niece, Ael (sp?) who grows up, gets her own ship "Bloodwing" and gives Kirk and Co. a run for their money in the book "My Enemy, My Ally" by Diane Duane. (Has some real good Star Trek stuff in it IMHO.)
 
Well, personally I still think Sherry Jackson is the prettiest-ever TOS guest babe.

*ducks and runs*
 
I'm not going to disagree with that! I'm on a seemingly-endless quest to find the Playboy she was in, back in the day.... :drool:
 
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I like her dimple.

I have a dimple. If we had a son together, you could park a Honda in the fucker's cheek.

Joe, would give new meaning to "premature"
 
It's amusing to note that a thread which started as a discussion of Helen Noel as a strong female character has descended into "phwoooaaarr...boobies!" :rolleyes:

I have to say, I don't see Dr Noel as a particularly strong or interesting female character. Her position as a former/potential conquest of Kirk's negates any real power the character could have had. No matter how smart she is, she becomes just a pretty girl who provides an opportunity for Kirk to flex his muscles a bit (not that I am complaining, you understand - as a woman, my "phwoaarr!" is going to the Captain..!). Also, yes, she is clearly an intelligent lady - a doctor of psychiatry is nothing to sniff at - but she doesn't actually offer any useful information at any point in the episode! She seems to just go along with whatever Dr Adams says. Perhaps that's just because she thinks what he's saying makes perfect sense, but it seems that if Kirk (who doesn't, as far as I know, have a degree in psychiatry!) can smell a rat, you'd think the trained expert in the field might also stand a chance of picking up on the fact that all is not what it seems.

But then again, maybe I'm just jealous cos she's so darned cute ;)

Incidentally, she reminds me of Cheryl Cole...

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It's amusing to note that a thread which started as a discussion of Helen Noel as a strong female character has descended into "phwoooaaarr...boobies!" :rolleyes:
Why can't it be both? Seems a false dilemma that we have to choose.
 
Thank you for that eloquent summary, guys ;)

Basil, you can have both. The thread is your oyster! It just made me chuckle that boobies played such a prominent part in the discussion when the original post was directed towards the intricacies of her character. Last time I checked, my boobies and my character were separate entities.
 
Ps. I wonder how many times I can say "boobies" before the word loses all meaning? Boobies, boobies, boobies...
 
And I truly don't get it. She's not the prettiest (or even the smartest) woman ever on Star Trek.

T'Bonz, with the new movie coming out last week and me seeing it this week, I've been going through some interesting memories. And because of that, I'm going to try and give you a real, definitive answer:

Mostly it's her smile.

You're right, she wasn't the absolutely most beautiful woman ever to grace Star Trek's screen. Yes, she's very attractive, but it's not just the beauty. If it were, we'd all drool equally over half the female guest-stars of the show.

And it's not her brains: yes, she was smart, but as you say, not the smartest woman we've seen in TOS. There are several who might qualify, but Noel's not one of them.

She does, however, have this smile.

It doesn't entirely translate to still pictures, either. You have to see her face light up while it's in motion, as a reaction to something.

It's really hard to describe, but I can tell you who currently has that smile and attitude with it and you can see it for yourself. On YouTube, search for "Alejandra Cata". She's a ford model and to be honest, a totally uninspiring print model. She looks like your average super-model: skinny, attractive in an androgenous sort of way, and totally vacuous.

However, get her in motion, and she has that smile.

There are women in this world whom, when they smile at you, is so utterly radiant and beautiful that a man feels like he has a life.

Alejandra Cata has it today. Marianna Hill had it in '66.

Marianna Hill also has something going for her that most women today don't. And again, Alejandra Cata also has this: they're poised. They move like ladies -- something they each learned as a matter of course, having grown up when and where each did.

Most women today have no poise, no grace -- at least not naturally. Those who learn it for a trade such as modelling almost always look fake. Apparently, you need a mother or a teacher constantly saying, "Sit up, Marianna, don't slouch!" or "Well, start with the balance basket on your head again and walk the length of a room. A lady needs to be able to walk as though she's always balancing the basket on her head." Without that early, constant training, grace and poise look fake.

But Marianna Hill's got it. It's real, and it's in the small thing she does as well as the larger.

And then she's smart. Not amazingly smart, but smart enough that you can have a conversation with her and not be bored. You suspect that if you have her talking long enough, you'll actually learn something you didn't already know. This is, I'm sorry to say, not something that women in real life today have. What you tend to hear from them is more of the same general nonsense about the soap opera that she's turned her life into.

So basically, you take all that and roll it together and you have Helen Noel. Near as I can tell, she comes close to being a man's idealized perfect woman -- impossible as we all know that is in real life. But that's why men drool over and fawn over her.

Dakota Smith
 
Just remember, she's got a cousin names "Stormin' Norman" who might not take kindly to getting too personal about his Cousin Marianna.
 
I guess the smile thing makes sense. Some people's looks really change when they smile, they just transform.
 
Thank you for that eloquent summary, guys ;)

Basil, you can have both. The thread is your oyster! It just made me chuckle that boobies played such a prominent part in the discussion when the original post was directed towards the intricacies of her character. Last time I checked, my boobies and my character were separate entities.
Boobies!:bolian:
 
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