nu-Spock was wearing the wrong shirt!

[The Laughing Vulcan]

From the moment we met him in his Starfleet duds, he was on the command track, high ranking position on the Enterprise, ordering people around, then when Pike went over to the Rom ship to eat bugs, Spock was in command. I don't recall him inflicting science on anyone at any point of the film. Surely he should have been in gold for the duration.

If anyone should have been in blue, it should have been Chekov, who did nothing but spout science and technobabble in a dodgy accent for the length of the film.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

are you saying that in a heated situation where the second in command is put in command temporarily in the captains absence that the second officer should change clothes?

 

[The Laughing Vulcan]

I'm saying that he should have been in gold from the beginning, as he certainly didn't do anything onscreen that indicated an aptitude for science.

 

[Classic Fan]

I'm saying that he should have been in gold from the beginning, as he certainly didn't do anything onscreen that indicated an aptitude for science.

Well, to be anal about it, here goes...

Spock was wearing blue in The Cage, then gold in WNMHGB and blue again in Corbomite Manouver.

So, in theory, he is in the right colour in Trek XI. However, in TOS we could assume he was choosing a science path, then changed to command briefly and didnt think it was totally 'him' and then went back to science until he chose command in Trek: II where he replaced Kirk as captain of the Enterprise.


If any one in Trek XI should be in alternate colours its Scotty, Uhura and Sulu.

Sulu was in blue in WNMHGB and Uhura was in gold in Corbomite where as Scotty was in a pale mustard/beige colour in both until the vibrant red appeared.

However in teh cases of this new movie, placing the characters in their famous iconic colour combinations was a selling point of the movie.

Spock is blue, Kirks in gold so and so forth.

However, it could be that the wardrobe department at desilu were trying to find the right colour to compliment Nichols, Doohans,Takeis and Nimoys features, and the fact colour tv was making it big at the time.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

All the times he wore gold his blues were at the dry cleaners.

 

[Jessop]

I'm saying that he should have been in gold from the beginning, as he certainly didn't do anything onscreen that indicated an aptitude for science.

Except program a complex simulation. Heard of computer science?

 

[The Laughing Vulcan]

IT professionals should wear anime T-Shirts, and be confined to the lowest of the lower decks.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

From what we saw in TOS, it's fair to assume he perhaps had a "double major" of sorts at the Academy -- In TOS he wore blue, but was obviously "able" to command because of the many instances that he actually did command.

I understand that you're saying he actually did no science in this film, but not doing science doesn't necessarily mean that he was not trained at the Academy to do science.

 

[Bobatiel]

From the moment we met him in his Starfleet duds, he was on the command track,

Where was that established? I think i missed that.

I don't recall him inflicting science on anyone at any point of the film. Surely he should have been in gold for the duration.

I don't recall anywhere in the flim establishing that Spock was not a science guy.

 

[Lt Cmdr Tyler]

Seriously wake up you lot!!

Spock has always been first officer and always been in blue. Just because you've chosen to gone down a certain path doesn't mean and wear a certain colour uniform doesn't mean you're not capable of cammanding. The chain of command and rank structure has no bearing on the colour of your uniform.

Get with it.

 

[gastrof]

In TMP Decker was the Enteprise's Captain.

Later, when Kirk had replaced him and Decker was Kirk's second in command, when the Vulcan science officer was lost in the transporter accident Kirk said, based on Decker's familiarity with the ship's upgrades, he would have to double as Science Officer.

Nu-Spock had a background in science, since he'd been offered a place on Vulcan at their Science Academy or whatever.

Gotta say it...

It's LOGICAL to assume he also followed the science track at Starfleet.

This wouldn't have to mean, however, that he wasn't also qualified to take command when needed.

 

[Lt Cmdr Tyler]

Couldn't agree more

 

[Lt Cmdr Tyler]

I remember the Voyager ep where Tuvok took over as Captain cos Janeway and Chakotay were left on a planet cos they had a disease.

Tuvok stayed Yellow... oh and he was 2nd officer.

What, should he have been red all that time too?

 

[Lt Cmdr Tyler]

Deanna Troi was ship counsellor, but ironically enough she was the third highest rank on the bridge. COMMANDER THE RANK!

At times she had to take COMMAND but she's in blue.

 

[gastrof]

I remember the Voyager ep where Tuvok took over as Captain cos Janeway and Chakotay were left on a planet cos they had a disease.

Tuvok stayed Yellow... oh and he was 2nd officer.

What, should he have been red all that time too?

Actually, yes, he should have changed uniforms.

When Jellico had Data replace Riker, I'm pretty sure Data ended up in red.

Believe the same thing happened when Riker had that unwanted holodeck visit to the future and found he was Captain and Data was his First Officer. Data ended up in red.

Tuvok should have been in red.

Janeway had a background as Science Officer on another ship, and ended up in red when she got Voyager.

 

[Jerikka Dawn]

Jellico was a hard ass. The minute he relieved Riker, he probably got on his communicator and ordered Data to drop everything and go to his quarters to change into red.

 

[Squiggy]

From the moment we met him in his Starfleet duds, he was on the command track, high ranking position on the Enterprise, ordering people around, then when Pike went over to the Rom ship to eat bugs, Spock was in command. I don't recall him inflicting science on anyone at any point of the film. Surely he should have been in gold for the duration.

If anyone should have been in blue, it should have been Chekov, who did nothing but spout science and technobabble in a dodgy accent for the length of the film.

 

[cooleddie74]

Considering that in the original pilot-era timeline Spock wore BOTH blue and gold shirts depending on the year and situation, I think we can let this thing slide. Besides, if someone in engineering can hold the rank of captain when that is clearly a command-track/department rank most of the time then I have no issues with Spock wearing his traditional blue.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

When not actually in command, Spock mans the science station throughout his scenes on the bridge.

 

[xman]

Spock is also one of the only senior officers on the ship. Who would you give command to, some inexperienced cadet hotshot who thinks he's destined to be the Capt ... oh wait.

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