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Forgetting Edith Keller

IlogicalOne

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Hello everyone. I'm new here and have been dying to ask someone who is a TOS fan if they can tell me if I am remembering the epilogue to this episode
correctly or not as it has been many years since I have seen it unaltered.
If I remembered it correctly, Capt Krik, still grieving over the death of Edith Keeler is, crying resting with his head down when Mr. Spock touches him in a very rare show of genuine concern and performs a Vulcan mind meld upon the captain and says, "forget", To help his friend forget the pain he was going through and also help him over come the guilt he feels for letting her be killed.
Now I have seen this episode on tv many times since then on various cable channels but that part is always cut out and it infuriates me to no end.
Does anyone here remember that scene in that classic episode and if so, do I remember it correctly or is that another episode I'm thinking of? I love TOS and that was one of my all time favorite of the series.
 
Yes, that scene is at the end of the episode "City on the Edge of Forever".


J.
 
Hello everyone. I'm new here and have been dying to ask someone who is a TOS fan if they can tell me if I am remembering the epilogue to this episode
correctly or not as it has been many years since I have seen it unaltered.
If I remembered it correctly, Capt Krik, still grieving over the death of Edith Keeler is, crying resting with his head down when Mr. Spock touches him in a very rare show of genuine concern and performs a Vulcan mind meld upon the captain and says, "forget", To help his friend forget the pain he was going through and also help him over come the guilt he feels for letting her be killed.
Now I have seen this episode on tv many times since then on various cable channels but that part is always cut out and it infuriates me to no end.
Does anyone here remember that scene in that classic episode and if so, do I remember it correctly or is that another episode I'm thinking of? I love TOS and that was one of my all time favorite of the series.
Guess I've seen it on tv so many times that I never bothered to watch it on my season 1 dvd's. Is that after he says "Let's get the hell out of here?" Because that's a perfect ending, for me. There's just so much emotion in that line, and it stays with you after the episode.
 
That's the end of Requiem for Methuselah . COTEOF ends with Kirk saying "Let's get the hell out of here."
 
Requiem for Methuselah........

Isn't it odd that Spock helps Kirk forget a robot?!?

His Vulcan mind touch would have been more fitting in City, when you really think about it.
 
Nerys Myk is correct, it happens at the end of "Requiem for Methuselah".

Yeah that's right...with that Rayna chick....ugh I just got thru bitchin that Marla McGivers was a dumb ass for falling in love in 20 minutes and I jump right to the thread where Kirk did the same thing...I never liked that part of Requiem...my kirk whipped up over...THAT WOMAN! :lol:
 
I've always considered Spock making Kirk "forget" out-of-character. I don't think Spock would interfere in this way, and I'm sure Kirk wouldn't want him to, either.

"I need my pain"...

As for Kirk falling in love with an android so fast, Rayna is just the type of "woman" Kirk likes. She's pretty, but with a sharp intellect - the brainy type... ;), and the often referred to loneliness of command just makes him susceptible to the situation, and leads to Kirk cave in to his feelings.
 
Isn't it odd that Spock helps Kirk forget a robot?!?

What robot? Spock helped Kirk forget the sad fate of Flint the Immortal.

Just watch through the scenes again. Kirk is in mental anguish - but not over Rayna. Rayna was a mechanical toy. Kirk feels for Flint the fellow Man.

Kirk: "A very old and lonely man. And a young and lonely man. We put on a pretty poor show, didn't we? If only I could forget."

That's all he sez. Not a word about gyneiform robots there. Kirk is sorry for Flint, and for what he sees of himself in Flint.

McCoy agrees, later on, and convinces Spock as well:

McCoy: "Well, I guess that's all. I can tell Jim later or you can. Considering his opponent's longevity, truly an eternal triangle. You wouldn't understand that, would you, Spock? You see, I feel sorrier for you than I do for him because you'll never know the things that love can drive a man to. The ecstasies, the miseries, the broken rules, the desperate chances, the glorious failures, the glorious victories. All of these things you'll never know simply because the word love isn't written into your book. Goodnight, Spock."

This to conclude his report on how Flint is faring. Again, it's all about the manly aspect of this, with nary a thought spared for the femaloid serving as the formal excuse for the male commiseration. According to Bones, what Kirk needs to forget is his sad rivalry with the no longer so immortal old man. Whether that involves forgetting about the android chick, too, is up to debate.

Timo Saloniemi
 
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