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Where did Nero / the Narada go for 25 years? (spoilers)

Re: Where did the Narada go for 25 years? (spoilers)

The one flaw I saw in Nero's plan is that he had no way of knowing in what time period Spock would reappear. What if Spock had been thrown 1000 years into the past? Or into the future? I suppose that's why he would have settled for young Spock, but it seemed like he really wanted old Spock to suffer, since that's who he held responsible.


I have to say every time I see your avatar I spend about 30 seconds just looking at it :evil:
 
Re: What was Nero doing for 25 years?

He was in a Klingon prison (Rura Penthe). Remember that bit about 47 Klingon ships being destroyed? That was Nero escaping.

so the empire left the ship in orbit around Rura Penthe for 25 years instead of taking it apart at some research facility? :lol:
Klingons are known for their brawn and not their brains.

And as has already been pointed out, Nero could have been off the Narada (for whatever reason) when the Klingons captured him.
 
Re: Where did the Narada go for 25 years? (spoilers)

Let's see if I understand these supposed deleted scenes properly. Ner and his crew are captured by Klingons and sent to Rura Penthe. What happens to Narada? For 25 years the Klingons have a fucking Space Octopus from 100 years into the future and they do nothing with it? They don't study it, attempt to backwards engineer the thing, or even just stick a crew on it and use it in battle? With that thing there would be no stopping them.

But no, I guess they just impound the thing at the Rura Penthe shipyards so that when Nero does escape he can have his old ship back. Fuck this movie is so stupid.

I agree with you there, I cant see the empire having a prize like the Narada and doing nothing with it. even with out red matter they could have drilled a hole in to the earth and shot a photon into it just to see what happens
 
Re: What was Nero doing for 25 years?

so the empire left the ship in orbit around Rura Penthe for 25 years instead of taking it apart at some research facility? :lol:
Klingons are known for their brawn and not their brains.

And as has already been pointed out, Nero could have been off the Narada (for whatever reason) when the Klingons captured him.
The Narada was severely damaged by the kelvin's collision, which is how the klingons captured Nero. It's doubtful that the Narada, as large as it is, would have dropped off Nero on some lonely planet and then limped off somewhere else without being noticed.
 
Re: What was Nero doing for 25 years?

Was the Narada that badly damaged? As powerful as the ship was, I don't see that happening by anything other than the black hole that eventually killed it.
 
Re: Where did the Narada go for 25 years? (spoilers)

I've just heard that the damage was the reason Nero was captured by the klingons.

An interesting question though. Why did Nero need Pike to give the defense capabilities of Earth? I would think the Narada was so advanced it would have just creamed Earth like it did Vulcan. That is, it didn't really need to know the defensive abilities of Earth. UNLESS, he feared that another ramming by a kelvin type ship or ships would happen again? That the damage from the Kelvin was that severe.
 
Re: What was Nero doing for 25 years?

I'm glad they deleted those scenes and left it mysterious; as others have said, the Klingons would have reverse engineered the Narada in that time. The only way it might have made sense (I'm not saying they did this, just speculating) would be if:

1) The Narada limped away to some concealed location;
2) Nero and members of his crew went out looking for parts, and were discovered by the Klingons;
3) Nero realizes that breaking out then will only mean they have to fight the Klingons for years, so...
4) Before they are captured, he orders the Narada to sit tight and only break him out when Spock is due to show up.
5) two decades later, the now fully-repaired Narada detects the anomoly, and attacks Rura Penthe, while Nero and his men stage a breakout from within.

But yeah, sometimes writers are better off not explaining certain things - the more information you provide, the more you risk exposing plot holes.

All of those scenarios seem pretty plausible, but generally I agree with your final sentiment. Some things are best left to the imagination to reconcile. :)

Still, I can't help but wonder how much of that time Nero would have really spent in prison.

Klingons are known for their brawn and not their brains.

My thought too. :rommie:

Didn't Orci or someone say that the Kelvin's scans of the Narada helped Starfleet engineers develop their tech in the aftermath?

Was the Narada that badly damaged? As powerful as the ship was, I don't see that happening by anything other than the black hole that eventually killed it.

True, it took all of the red matter detonating inside it at once to destroy it, but to be sure all of the red matter detonating inside of anything would destroy anything.

I don't think the fact that the Narada defeated 47 Klingon ships really proves anything. A kamikaze collision from another starship (presuming warp core breach) should have hurt them at least a little, no matter how strong they were. Indeed, do we really know how hurt the ship was after it came out of the black hole? The fact that it could beat the Kelvin, a one-nacelle survey ship,may not mean anything, etiher. I'd say the Narada almost had to have been at least temporarily crippled to not destroy those shuttles. Secrecy was their friend, no matter where they were.

My question is this: do we expressly know where the Kelvin encountered the Narada? Was it the past/alternate version of the Hobus system? If so, perhaps this system is so remote and overlooked that the Narada could have simply been left there. Then again, it seems like Starfleet might have sent an armada looking for it after it picked up the Kelvin survivors if it was.

And, if it was the Hobus system, wouldn't Nero have bothered to use the red matter to destroy the Hobus star and prevent the future cataclysmic supernova, hell-bent on revenge or not?
 
Re: Where did the Narada go for 25 years? (spoilers)

I think they should have included some of this for Neros story. It would have made him even more bad-ass if they had showed him willingly waiting 20 years in a Klingon Prison.
 
Re: Where did the Narada go for 25 years? (spoilers)

^It might have given him more depth in some people's minds, at least.
 
Re: Where did the Narada go for 25 years? (spoilers)

Well, Nero's crew spent most of the time trying to surgically remove the Kelvin from the inside of Nero's ass.
 
Re: What was Nero doing for 25 years?

Klingons are known for their brawn and not their brains.

While that's true, they're a spacefaring race with technology roughly equivalent to that of the Federation and the Romulans. They're not morons, and they'd cut their own children in half with rusty bat'leths to get their hands on the kinds of weaponry a ship from a hundred and fifty years in the future would posess.
 
Re: What was Nero doing for 25 years?

I'm fine with the info we have. Gives us more room to speculate, which is fun.

Personally, I think it

a) took about a million years to repair the damage without attracting too much attention;

b) took a million years to finish calculating where and when Spock Prime would pop up.

They probably had loads of stuff to do, refreshing their tattoos and all, playing fizbin, playing target practice with Klingons... all kinds of things, really.
 
Re: Where did the Narada go for 25 years? (spoilers)

They really needs to be explained in the DVD/Blu-Ray.
 
Re: Where did the Narada go for 25 years? (spoilers)

Well that's your opinion, not mine.... if you're referring to the topic that is. In other cases, I would agree with you. :)
 
Re: Where did the Narada go for 25 years? (spoilers)

the fact that Nero calculated when Spock would appear is a bit unlikely to me - how exactly?
 
Re: Where did the Narada go for 25 years? (spoilers)

Hey, it did take him 25 years to figure it out, so cut him some slack.
 
Re: Where did the Narada go for 25 years? (spoilers)

the fact that Nero calculated when Spock would appear is a bit unlikely to me - how exactly?

Equalization of a ten-dimensional collapsing wave function equation, allowing for variable subspace field densities and the relativistic frame dragging typical of Kerr ringwarp singularities.

In other words: "Computer! Figure out where Spock will show up!"
 
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