Star Trek end credits and soundtrack discussion thread

[TheBrew]

After seeing the movie and listening to the soundtrack again... I still found it overall very bland. The new theme I like, but the action music just runs together. I've also listened to the Revenge of the Sith soundtrack and I find that Williams does a much better job of writing action music that is interesting to listen to. Now some of that isn't a fair comparison as Williams does have 20+years of themes to work with, but I tried listening to the underlying (non-thematic) music and I still thought it was much better. The Star Trek Sound Track really only 'pops' when Giacchino adds in his fun percussion work (like the epic timpanis in a few spots), but overall it doesn't do much to evoke emotion from me. It is sort of just there. I think that it could have stood to have a rewrite done of a few scenes and added in a theme or two.

A Spock/Vulcan theme would have been great because it could have been explored in many different ways throughout the film as Spock goes through many different character states and could be used to highlight the pain he feels in certain scenes and also highlight the differences between young Spock and Spock Prime.

 

[Jeri]

Some of the themes remind me of music from The Search for Spock.

 

[Tulin]

You have a gorgeous av but sorry, I have to say, "BLASPHEMY!!!!!!"

about the Ottman/Williams comparison?

Yes.

But I will change my opinion if I can meet the guy in your avatar.

 

[Tulin]

Film music is a love of mine and I pity those who don't appreciate it.

"Film music" -or- Original SoundTrack(s) (as I prefer: in order to differentiate between pop-music that happens to appear in films and the music written for the film itself to be part of the general artwork of a movie.)

I don't need to differentiate because I would NEVER consider actual songs within the film to be in the same echelon as the actual film's originally written MUSIC(OST, as you call it).

I guess my hatred for songs within films came about in the mid 80's when studios started ditching film MUSIC for their soundtracks and would just release an album of all the songs that appeared in the film. The most eggregious example was the beautiful and haunting music for "The Goonies". What we got was a bland album of second rate songs(except Cyndi Lauper)that appeared mostly as "source music"(being heard on radios and so on)within the film.


Thus my hatred for songs within films taking up valuable real estate on soundtrack albums.

 

[Messianni]

Sometimes though there are separate releases made: one for the score and one for various songs that appear in the film, as in the example you gave, on radios and such.

 

[Desleane]

I think there are more pieces of music not included on CD, I want the extended version + I like the song from the TV Spot #3 and it was "The Reckoning" by Machine Vandals, if anyone wants to listen it's right here!

 

[trekkiedane]

Cool

On that note:
Two Steps from Hell's Down With the Enterprise (from the trailer) can be found on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvoCg8g-Qrw

It's from the album Legend, but the music isn't to be found on the website: http://www.twostepsfromhell.com/index2-1.php

 

[ST-One]

You have a gorgeous av but sorry, I have to say, "BLASPHEMY!!!!!!"

about the Ottman/Williams comparison?

Yes.

But I will change my opinion if I can meet the guy in your avatar.

Well, I'd have to give you a lethal injection for this to work...

 

[cooleddie74]

I stayed in the theater until the very last second of the end credits. I was not about to miss that incredible score in surround sound.

 

[agordy85]

I see that several people think that the soundtrack was "bland" and not very engaging, but I think we are listening to different scores, because I find the score to this movie the best I've heard since the original score for The Motion Picture, if not better. It sounds like one of the most epic space operas ever conducted, and I can't get enough of it. It's about time a Star Trek movie gets a well deserved score like this one. Thank you Giacchino!

 

[cooleddie74]

After the go-nowhere "blah" of the NEMESIS soundtrack I think I wouldn't have minded if the old TV Soap theme had been used over top of this movie.

 

[Lonemagpie]

I like it - not Giachhino's *best* work (that'd be Medal Of Honor Frontline, IMO, with a special mention for the excellent Ifukube homage that ends Cloverfield) but pretty good - better than MI-III.

 

[cooleddie74]

The track where Winona is giving birth to baby James T. and George rams the Kelvin into Nero's ship is also very touching and nice to listen to.

 

[Jeri]

The track where Winona is giving birth to baby James T. and George rams the Kelvin into Nero's ship is also very touching and nice to listen to.

"Labor of Love."

 

[cooleddie74]

The track where Winona is giving birth to baby James T. and George rams the Kelvin into Nero's ship is also very touching and nice to listen to.

"Labor of Love."

Yep. That's the one.

Beautiful and very moving. The way it was used in the final moments of George's life and the naming of his son really got to me.

 

[trekkiedane]

The track where Winona is giving birth to baby James T. and George rams the Kelvin into Nero's ship is also very touching and nice to listen to.

"Labor of Love."

Damn you two! -now I need to put it on -AGAIN

Yeah, beautiful scene; the way the total sound of the music and the sounds of the battle and whatnot were mixed in those few moments are my favourite from the film!

 

[Jeri]

Lovely the way all the carnage and breakage goes silent, except for the quiet strains of music.

 

[Desleane]

And what's the song when Robau gets on the shuttle (pulling the strange curtain thingy)?

 

[trekkiedane]

Beautiful and very moving. The way it was used in the final moments of George's life and the naming of his son really got to me.

Lovely the way all the carnage and breakage goes silent, except for the quiet strains of music.

From "Push!" to "I lo..." - first time i remember ever being blurry eyed from watching a film!

 

[cooleddie74]

Beautiful and very moving. The way it was used in the final moments of George's life and the naming of his son really got to me.

Lovely the way all the carnage and breakage goes silent, except for the quiet strains of music.

From "Push!" to "I lo..." - first time i remember ever being blurry eyed from watching a film!

Best 10 opening minutes of a TREK film in at least twenty years. Easily.