Er it's not really about other films in the franchise, this by far the most expensive film in the franchise. With product costs estimated at $150 + marketing costs (Which are supposedly huge in the USA). We just gotta hope that this was just to break the market, like the first Batman before Dark Knight and paramount are willing to cope a short term loss for a longer run gain.
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Er it's not really about other films in the franchise, this by far the most expensive film in the franchise. With product costs estimated at $150 + marketing costs (Which are supposedly huge in the USA). We just gotta hope that this was just to break the market, like the first Batman before Dark Knight and paramount are willing to cope a short term loss for a longer run gain.
There shouldn't be a loss, dude.
Warner Bros didn't take a loss on Batman Begins. Neither will Paramount on Star Trek.
That would mean a $300m approx US gross. Optimistic.
This film has done very well, but adjusted for inflation, it's only taken $25m more in the same period than First Contact took, so I don't think anyone should get carried away.
I think FC's budget was $47m (1996 money), so it approximately made back it's entire budget in its US opening weekend. Star Trek has made back half of its budget in its opening weekend.
Perspective needed here.
Depends how quick the fall of is, and how big the marketing campaign costed. Heck, here in the UK I thought the marketing was poor, and Wolverine and Angels and Daemons is far more publicised imo.
No, the split would be more like around $190-210 million domestic and $160-170 million international.
You can't take the $35.5 million international figure alone and extrapolate by using a multiplier because the film has yet to open in a lot of markets.
Historically, no Trek film has taken more than 33% to 37% of its worldwide gross outside of the US. Even First Contact took just 37% ($54m of a total worldwide of $146m), which I think was the highest non US performance of all Trek films.
If a Trek film does financially well in the US, it does well across the world. If it does badly in the US, like Nemesis did, it tanks everywhere else too.
I think the film has opened pretty much everywhere now, except Japan. I remember looking at the official release dates for counties across the world, and they were all within two or three days of each other.
You have to appreciate that in many European countries, Star Trek films have previously grossed far less than $1m per country.
The norms of the previous Trek films really don't apply to this one. Paramount gave most of the Trek films relatively limited international release campaigns.
By the way, the best international performance for a Trek film was Star Trek: The Motion Picture, which made $56.7 million of its $139 million worldwide gross in foreign markets. That was almost 41% of its take.
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Two things come to mind.
1) This movie has created new fans and brought back lost fans.
2) "Uninspired" is the key word. The B&B days are long gone. A fresh, and inspired person like Fuller, working with Abrams and gang would do something terrific, no doubt.
Doesn't have to be another ship and crew. You could do an Abramsverse version of Vanguard.
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Star_Trek:_Vanguard
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These dollar by dollar threads should be combined into one sticky.
It's not likely that there will be a loss. I can't imagine that once you factor in worldwide gross and DVD sales and rentals that it won't make enough to pay for the movie at this point.
It does, however, point to a trend in movie making that, to me, often hides a bit of the truth about how much money a movie makes.
First Contact made around $150m world wide and $115m in DVD rentals and cost $45m to make, for a profit of $220m. Star Trek will have to gross $370m to make the same profit.
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Production and marketing costs have gone up exponentially since the early to mid 1990s, but so have revenues from foreign box office and home entertainment. But DVD sales have leveled off, and in fact are starting to drop, so the studios can't allow costs to continue to escalate at the pace they have been.
If we go by this numbers
then here is the box office Trek comparison ranking adjusted by inflation.
domestic gross:
9. The Final Frontier: $92.6 mil
10. STAR TREK: $76.511million
11. Star Trek: Nemesis: $52.9 mil
Foreign gross:
6. The Wrath of Khan: $43. 6 mil
7. STAR TREK: $35.5 million
8. The Undiscovered Country: $32.1 mil
9. The Final Frontier: $31.9 mil
10.Nemesis: $29.3 mil
11.The Search for Spock: $22.1 mil
Worldwide gross:
9. The Final Frontier: $124.5 mil
10. STAR TREK: $112 million.
11. Star Trek: Nemesis: $82.2 mil
Oh, that's great! Star Trek made one hundred and twel...
JIZZ. IN. MY. PANTS.
...dammit!
Just checking, did you use inflation-inflation or ticket price-inflation?
Terminator will smoke it next weekend. That's okay; it's what everyone expected no matter what.
There's a week between ST09 and Terminator.
^ I'm sure there's a few years as well.
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