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Star Trek Sequel - Vulcan? [SPOILERS]

Re: Star Trek Sequel Vulcan is Saved?

I can't remember where exactly I heard the following quote but I think it suits perfectly:

"And when you're dead, you stay dead! Not Star Trek dead!"
 
Re: Star Trek Sequel Vulcan is Saved?

Restoring Vulcan would make Trek boring again. This if fresh, and provides for interesting trails that can now be followed which otherwise couldn't have been explored before.

Also, I don't want more time travel in the next two films. It was necessary for this one, but will appear lazy for the next. TWOK, TSFS, and TUC were all good Trek films sans time travel.
 
Re: Star Trek Sequel Vulcan is Saved?

Yeah, we bitched when they killed Spock before. We bitched when they killed Data and we bitched when they killed Trip.

I'm bitching because 6 billion precious Vulcans died. I hate it.

I understand it, but I hate it.

ETA: Spock was resurrected. Data was resurrected in countdown.
He was duplicated.
 
Re: Star Trek Sequel Vulcan is Saved?

Yeah, we bitched when they killed Spock before. We bitched when they killed Data and we bitched when they killed Trip.

I'm bitching because 6 billion precious Vulcans died. I hate it.

I understand it, but I hate it.

ETA: Spock was resurrected. Data was resurrected in countdown.
He was duplicated.
That's just semantics though.
 
Re: Star Trek Sequel Vulcan is Saved?

Yeah, we bitched when they killed Spock before. We bitched when they killed Data and we bitched when they killed Trip.

I'm bitching because 6 billion precious Vulcans died. I hate it.

I understand it, but I hate it.

ETA: Spock was resurrected. Data was resurrected in countdown.
He was duplicated.


In effect, so was Spock. It was a newly grown body, apparently, based on his DNA, and his mental pattern was moved from McCoy into the new body.
 
Re: Star Trek Sequel Vulcan is Saved?

I don't hate it, I never liked the Vulcans anyway. Well, apart from Spock of course. I think the move was powerful and very cool. As in "look guys, danger is actually dangerous, and death is actually deadly"!
 
Re: Star Trek Sequel Vulcan is Saved?

Does anyone think they will find a way to save Vulcan in the second film?

no, i don't think they will. with so few Vulcans, in the thousands i believe, it simply adds greater gravitas to any one of their demises. it can potentially play to dramatic story arcs in the future.
 
Does anyone think they will find a way to save Vulcan in the second film? <snip>
Overbound, I've edited your thread title so that the major spoiler it contained is not hanging right out there for those who haven't yet seen the movie.

Everyone should please be aware that thread titles should not contain spoilers and also that titles may sometimes become visible on the Main Index and can potentially spoil an important plot point even for people who are avoiding this forum.
 
I think restoring Vulcan would be an egregious mistake. One of Trek's longstanding problems has been a refusal to upset the status quo. Even when they killed Data off, they left the door open to bring him back--same with Spock. For once, there are serious consequences that aren't undone by the end credits, and I applaud that. The 23rd century has a blank slate now. The writers can do anything now--reinterpret TOS episodes, go in whole new directions, anything. It won't be hobbled by the past or a slavish adherence to "canon."

I expect a sequel that moves us forward, not one that takes us back.
 
With the Prime Universe Spock still alive in the new alternate history, one would only assume that he would try and restore Vulcan somehow.I'd say it's a 50/50 shot we might see it in some medium.It hasn't been said to whether this alternate Trek universe is the one STO will take place in or not(of which Data takes part in).It's goign to be exciting to see what happens.There's still some events in this Trek's reality that likely won't and can't be changed(i'e V'Ger,Whale Probe,etc.).It's going to be exciting to see what happens in the next movie.

The funniest thing i find is that any events of Enterprise, remain unscathed lol.I found that little blurb about Scotty beaming Admiral Archer's prized beagle into the nether funny as hell.Unfortunately not alot of people caught onto it.
 
Does anyone think they will find a way to save Vulcan in the second film? Either by going back in time and stopping Nero Shouldn't Spock Prime know the formula for going back in time? Or the more likely route they may take is that they find some sort of planet creating machine that creates a new Vulcan this would actually be quite interesting as most of the siting of Vulcan show a barren wasteland with a small population. Which would fit well with the creation of a new planet.

Don't mistake that I think they are planing this now but if they decide that Trek fans are unhappy with the destruction perhaps they will find some way to bring Vulcan back into existence. Personally I think at the very least the next film will have something to do with Vulcan or a Vulcan Colony I don't think they would dare destroying such a iconic part of Star Trek lore without addressing it with a story or something. Anyone have any thoughts or opinions on this.

I think this was boldest move by Abrams in making his timeline different from the timeline that we know. Think of all the things that change now! When Sarek becomes ill his wife will never be there with him-- who knows if Jean Luc-Picard will eve be born in this timeline? The future has been altered beyond repair. THIS is what makes THIS series new, fresh and unique. It was a balsy move that was extremely well executed (and I think, well received!)
 
I think restoring Vulcan would be an egregious mistake. One of Trek's longstanding problems has been a refusal to upset the status quo. Even when they killed Data off, they left the door open to bring him back--same with Spock. For once, there are serious consequences that aren't undone by the end credits, and I applaud that. The 23rd century has a blank slate now. The writers can do anything now--reinterpret TOS episodes, go in whole new directions, anything. It won't be hobbled by the past or a slavish adherence to "canon."

I expect a sequel that moves us forward, not one that takes us back.

Absolutely, 100% right.
 
I'm bitching because 6 billion precious Vulcans died. I hate it.

Me too. :( Ditto for Romulus in the prime timeline.

I fucking hate it. Vulcan and Earth were, to me, the Federation. To destroy one just blows.

I'd take the reset, but it won't happen. I have a steak dinner riding on my belief that it won't happen. :p
 
JJ is a man of mystery, the man lives on the stuff. Unfortunately, there was nothing mysterious about the destruction of Vulcan - we know how and why it happened, there is no story in creating another new timeline to suit this.

Infact, none of the mystery from this movie was left unresolved, leaving, as others have said - a completely blank slate. Anything will happen in the next film.
 
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