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The Official STAR TREK Grading & Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]

Grade the movie...

  • Excellent

    Votes: 711 62.9%
  • Above Average

    Votes: 213 18.8%
  • Average

    Votes: 84 7.4%
  • Below Average

    Votes: 46 4.1%
  • Poor

    Votes: 77 6.8%

  • Total voters
    1,131
I do have two other things but didn't want to make a new thread about it:

1) Didn't like the product placement (Nokia still exists in the 23ed century ha?) but loved the music. Bestie Boys? That was different but good

2) I missed the part where McCoy was explaining how he got the nickname bones. The theater was laughing a lot during the scene and I didn't hear it. Could someone explain it to me so I at least got that. I'm probably going to see it again, but not this weekend.
He said that his ex-wife took the entire planet in the divorce, all he had left was his bones.
 
I do have two other things but didn't want to make a new thread about it:

1) Didn't like the product placement (Nokia still exists in the 23ed century ha?) but loved the music. Bestie Boys? That was different but good

2) I missed the part where McCoy was explaining how he got the nickname bones. The theater was laughing a lot during the scene and I didn't hear it. Could someone explain it to me so I at least got that. I'm probably going to see it again, but not this weekend.
He said that his ex-wife took the entire planet in the divorce, all he had left was his bones.

Ok, maybe I'm going to look stupid for asking this, but "The entire Planet?"
 
Ok, maybe I'm going to look stupid for asking this, but "The entire Planet?"

A joke, a hyperbole to show that the wife had probably very good lawyers and took all the money and the house and the dog...

You know like when you are tired, really tired...and say something like "I feel like I'm a thousand years old"
It doesn't mean you are the immortal highlander.
It's just a hyperbole.
 
^^ Dang it, what's with all these new members lately (the Cadets, and Lieutenant Junior Grades and such) who barge into threads just to be negative, then leave? Have I been transported to IMDb?

EDIT: No seriously. I've scanned the last few pages and honestly every negative word came from someone who is brand new to the forum. Are we being infiltrated? :))
I've been on the TrekBBS for 7 and a half years, and I thought it was lame. So get your facts right
 
^^ Dang it, what's with all these new members lately (the Cadets, and Lieutenant Junior Grades and such) who barge into threads just to be negative, then leave? Have I been transported to IMDb?

EDIT: No seriously. I've scanned the last few pages and honestly every negative word came from someone who is brand new to the forum. Are we being infiltrated? :))
I've been on the TrekBBS for 7 and a half years, and I thought it was lame. So get your facts right

How amusingly ironic coming from a guy standing in front of a 'Back to the Future' poster...
 
Reading through this thread, I am confused. It's the spin-off fans and not the TOS fans who've got their panties in a bunch. I am at a loss to explain this. Is it because the comfortable sameness of the four spin-offs is not present in this movie? Is it because "their" trek is gone now? Do they now feel that they have memorized the Star Trek Encyclopedia all for nothing? Is this movie just too different for them? It's quite strange, when you think about it.

I too noticed this, and in fact am one of the "I'm not quite sure about this movie" people who is a spin-off fan (TNG). For me, it's purely that my favorite Trek now seems to have little chance of occurring in the new Trek universe they're creating. While the original has diverged somewhat from what it would have been from the initial branching point of this new universe, the changes will inevitably have a more drastic effect on the long-term future of that universe. In other words, as a spin-off fan, now I'm left with a Star Trek universe in which my beloved spin-off either won't happen or will be so different that I may wish it hadn't. So, silly as it sounds, I think that's the thing we spin-off people are having trouble reconciling: a new Star Trek universe that may well not include the things we love best about Trek (be it DS9, TNG, or what have you).

Hey, at least ENT people are safe! But seriously, yes, I know my beloved TNG will always be back in the original Trek universe, so I'm becoming okay with it. But I won't be able to feel the same way about this new alternate universe as I do about the original, for the reasons outlined above.
 
^^ Dang it, what's with all these new members lately (the Cadets, and Lieutenant Junior Grades and such) who barge into threads just to be negative, then leave? Have I been transported to IMDb?

EDIT: No seriously. I've scanned the last few pages and honestly every negative word came from someone who is brand new to the forum. Are we being infiltrated? :))
I've been on the TrekBBS for 7 and a half years, and I thought it was lame. So get your facts right

How amusingly ironic coming from a guy standing in front of a 'Back to the Future' poster...
Oh yeah, let's get personal. How kind of you. What a nice chap you must be.
If you'd bothered reading my posts I'd said I didn't enjoy the film that much, but if other people did then good on them.
But oh no, that's not frigging good enough for the likes of you is it. Anyone who would dare dislike something you like is a massive twat and must be shown up.
And what does that even mean anyway, yeah because BTTF isn't a popular film 24 years later is it? Is it a crime now to like that film?
Grow up please, and an apology wouldn't go amiss
 
Reading through this thread, I am confused. It's the spin-off fans and not the TOS fans who've got their panties in a bunch. I am at a loss to explain this. Is it because the comfortable sameness of the four spin-offs is not present in this movie? Is it because "their" trek is gone now? Do they now feel that they have memorized the Star Trek Encyclopedia all for nothing? Is this movie just too different for them? It's quite strange, when you think about it.

I too noticed this, and in fact am one of the "I'm not quite sure about this movie" people who is a spin-off fan (TNG). For me, it's purely that my favorite Trek now seems to have little chance of occurring in the new Trek universe they're creating. While the original has diverged somewhat from what it would have been from the initial branching point of this new universe, the changes will inevitably have a more drastic effect on the long-term future of that universe. In other words, as a spin-off fan, now I'm left with a Star Trek universe in which my beloved spin-off either won't happen or will be so different that I may wish it hadn't. So, silly as it sounds, I think that's the thing we spin-off people are having trouble reconciling: a new Star Trek universe that may well not include the things we love best about Trek (be it DS9, TNG, or what have you).

Hey, at least ENT people are safe! But seriously, yes, I know my beloved TNG will always be back in the original Trek universe, so I'm becoming okay with it. But I won't be able to feel the same way about this new alternate universe as I do about the original, for the reasons outlined above.
Yeah, thank god Enterprise is safe. :rommie:
 
J.J. Abrams Raped Star Trek. Seriously, he took the series and had his way with it. I am disapointed that I spent 5 dollars on this movie. It was so bad.

If you haven't seen it. Here is the one spoiler that will make you hate JJ Abrams.

HE DESTROYED VULCAN.

That means all the Vulcans from Star Trek the Next Generation, DS9, and voyager are DEAD.

think about that for a minute...
 
I've been on the TrekBBS for 7 and a half years, and I thought it was lame. So get your facts right

How amusingly ironic coming from a guy standing in front of a 'Back to the Future' poster...
Oh yeah, let's get personal. How kind of you. What a nice chap you must be.
If you'd bothered reading my posts I'd said I didn't enjoy the film that much, but if other people did then good on them.
But oh no, that's not frigging good enough for the likes of you is it. Anyone who would dare dislike something you like is a massive twat and must be shown up.
And what does that even mean anyway, yeah because BTTF isn't a popular film 24 years later is it? Is it a crime now to like that film?
Grow up please, and an apology wouldn't go amiss

:rolleyes:

Just for the record, Marty McFly's adventures are three of my favourite movies.
 
^^ Dang it, what's with all these new members lately (the Cadets, and Lieutenant Junior Grades and such) who barge into threads just to be negative, then leave? Have I been transported to IMDb? EDIT: No seriously. I've scanned the last few pages and honestly every negative word came from someone who is brand new to the forum. Are we being infiltrated? :))

I wonder how many of these shiny new cadets can be traced to the same IP address.
 
The cadet-to-Captain thing is unsalvagable. (...) I've looked the other way at Trek's disinterest in the realities of military structure and the chain of command...
Starfleet isn't the military.

As Harve Bennett famously replied to one of Roddenberry's memos, "It used to be." (...)

In the writer's guide for the series, Roddenberry encouraged writers to test the plausibility of Kirk's behavior in their stories by asking themselves "would the Captain of an aircraft carrier behave this way?"
Your point is well taken. On the other hand, Roddenberry said he originally didn't want to give the characters military ranks at all but he needed something the audience would understand.

Starfleet has been interpreted a number of different ways. Harve Bennett and Nick Meyer went with a more militaristic interpretation, as did Ira Behr and Ron Moore. Roddenberry and Michael Piller seemed to favor a less militaristic interpretation.

I prefer Roddenberry and Piller but it's all a matter of opinion, I guess. The interpretations of this franchise by different showrunners over the years sometimes makes me think it's a mistake to try to find a consistent perspective at all. Better to take each show on its own terms. From that point of view this movie is hardly the first time Star Trek has been reinvented.
 
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