Does this movie imply a possible re-emergence of the television series

[Therin of Andor]

Re: Does this movie imply a possible re-emergence of the television se

if you were to post this in the TREK BOOK FORUM on this site; it could get you a warning!!!

Balderdash. And FatherRob+ didn't mean no more books other than books based on JJ's ST.

In fact, he said:

What makes you think the Trek Book World needs 'saving'? ... my own little opinion here and there on the Trek novels... which I could credit for so much in my life.

 

[Tulin]

Re: Does this movie imply a possible re-emergence of the television se

I don't understand why he thought it would get a warning.

 

[Therin of Andor]

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I don't understand why he thought it would get a warning.

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=90234

 

[Flake]

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I personally would be overwhelmed with a $150 million movie every 2-3 years.

I really could do without a TV series in the interim, they MUST learn from their mistakes. The movie franchise will do for the foreseeable future. I hope CBS leave Trek alone and OFF the TV.

 

[Eddie Roth]

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The question is, WILL CBS want to leave it alone if the film(s) are successful? As far as I know, CBS has all the television rights, which means they can do whatever they like with the property. Of course I would assume they would want to get Abrams to do it.

I imagine a not completely unlikely scenario would be for a new series to be limited, like most cable shows are, to 12 or 13 episodes per season. Kind of how Lost has been doing it the past two years. That might not preclude any of the film actors from doing it. Or they would do a show based on another starship in which the film cast would do guest appearances.

 

[Flake]

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I hope there is a gentlemens agreement between CBS and Paramount that there are no TV shows until 2015 or something. That would be when a trilogy is complete...

IF the movie is a success of course.

If the movie is a success critically and still doesn't generate enough $$ to justify a sequel then thats when CBS would come in.

 

[Balthier the Great]

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Honestly, I think a new series would be completely FAIL unless they do it right. And by that I mean that they have to go back to making great science fiction, something that makes the audience think a bit. The problem with VOY and ENT wasn't really the acting or effects -- it was a paint by numbers. Everything seemed to happen exactly as it was expected to. It's sort of like going to McDonald's. You know exactly what you're getting because they don't take risks with the winning formulae.

What Trek needs if it wants to have a bing TV series is IDEAS, challenging the audiences' expectations of what Trek is. I wan't the occasional jalepeno, something that can honestly make me say "I never saw THAT coming". I don't know if the producers can deliver, and if they don't I think it would be worse than nothing.

Hopefully the movies will make a lot of dough, but I don't think a new series is a great idea.

 

[jefferiestubes8]

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what would make you guys think we're going to be getting 2-3 amazing trek movies in a row, no less depending on that for a new tv series to emerge?

The box office results from Star Trek XI.
It is a business and Paramount's executives will make a business decision about one of their product lines.
Sometimes two films are greenlit to shoot them back-to-back with the same actors/crew.
'Back to the Future II/III', 'Pirates of the Caribbean 2/3', 'Transformers 2/3', Frank Miller's 'The Spirit', 'The Matrix 2/3',
What will get them a bigger R.O.I. another feature film or a television series? These days both have DVD/Blu-ray sales that are a big part of it.


Eddie Roth wrote

I imagine a not completely unlikely scenario would be for a new series to be limited, like most cable shows are, to 12 or 13 episodes per season. Kind of how Lost has been doing it the past two years.

It is more of a discussion for the Future of Trek subforum but I mentioned there a couple ideas for a limited run of a series (not 22 episodes) but more Video-on-demand. Check it out and continue that discussion there.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

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True, though it wasn't just that. The universally-enjoyable magic of TNG's television run was never recaptured, despite how enjoyable DS9 was. VOY and ENT demonstrated to us what happens when television episodes are produced (or churned, rather) by uninspired, unenthusiastic, and dispassionate folks. There was no fire in their bellies! No sparkle in their eyes. And their souls were wholly void.

If even they clearly don't love what they're doing, how could anyone else?

In ENT's case, only for S1-3. S4 showed conclusively how good a show can get with the right show-runners (BnB having stepped back at that point).

Still, I don't expect a new series any time soon. One simple reason: Moonives. HATES sci-fi, and esp Trek. If it weren't for the tv/movie rights split, we wouldn't have a film now.

 

[Tulin]

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I don't understand why he thought it would get a warning.

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=90234

Just read the first page(it was enough)and.....yeah, that was really strange.

So because one person doesn't like all the books out there, apparently no one else can read them either.


Weird.

 

[indranee]

Re: Does this movie imply a possible re-emergence of the television se

if VOY deserved 7 years, so did ENT.

on ENT, certain S1 eps, the second half of S2, pretty much the entirety of S3, and a majority of eps of S4 were pretty good by recent Trek standards. but it wasn't what the viewing public (much less Trekkies) wanted. what went wrong was good will. there has been little or NO good will on the part of Joe and Jane Public toward any Trek (series or movie) for the past few years.

the fact that this movie is getting rave reviews and great WOM is an amazing feet on TPTB's part. I'm cautiously optimistic but I do not want another TV series right away or even in five years. this cast is big screen GOLD. I don't want it cheapened on the small screen. and no matter what you think, it WILL be cheapened on TV.

stay with the movies, JJ, please.

 

[bychance]

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I dunno - it sounds like we're bounding into the realm of wishful thinking here.

"Spider-Man" didn't spawn a series, nor did "Lord of the Rings." Jay Leno is eating up an hour of Prime-Time every working day now - it costs them practically nothing. Reality TV is still in full force. This movie cost a king's ransom to make; a series would go bankrupt on just replicating the lens flares.

Spider-Man without cash is a guy in a gimp suit; LOTR without cash is Xena, Warrior Princess. Star Trek without cash is VOY/ENT.

Cash or not, its still filmed at the same place with a good number of the same crew and actors

 

[darkwing_duck1]

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I dunno - it sounds like we're bounding into the realm of wishful thinking here.

"Spider-Man" didn't spawn a series, nor did "Lord of the Rings." Jay Leno is eating up an hour of Prime-Time every working day now - it costs them practically nothing. Reality TV is still in full force. This movie cost a king's ransom to make; a series would go bankrupt on just replicating the lens flares.

Spider-Man without cash is a guy in a gimp suit; LOTR without cash is Xena, Warrior Princess. Star Trek without cash is VOY/ENT.

Cash or not, its still filmed at the same place with a good number of the same crew and actors

Not to mention that Xena was a pretty good show regardless of budget, and that VOY and ENT hardly looked "cheap". A good production team can get a LOT of value out of a small budget. And the budget isn't what makes the show anyways, it's the show itself that is either good or bad.

 

[IndyJones]

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It also made me laugh when I heard Eric Bana extolling the virtues of Nero(STILL don't like that name - why not call him Alexander, Rasputin or Adolf?)

Because Nero was a Roman and the others weren't...

 

[Balthier the Great]

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It also made me laugh when I heard Eric Bana extolling the virtues of Nero(STILL don't like that name - why not call him Alexander, Rasputin or Adolf?)

Because Nero was a Roman and the others weren't...

So why not Caligula? I mean he did appoint his horse consul of Rome, that's wicked crazy.

 

[Garrovick]

Re: Does this movie imply a possible re-emergence of the television se

I would say no.

 

[jefferiestubes8]

a possible re-emergence of the television series?

I don't think the JJ-Verse is all that well suited to a TV-series and personally I wouldn't be surprised if the two sequels weren't a continuation of the events of this movie.

No one has mentioned the words in print that the cast are signed up for 2 sequels from this thread and the article that states it:
"Star Trek: Rebooting a Classic" article from Entertainment Weekly

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

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I've had math teachers more compelling than the command crew of those two series.

 

[IndyJones]

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It also made me laugh when I heard Eric Bana extolling the virtues of Nero(STILL don't like that name - why not call him Alexander, Rasputin or Adolf?)

Because Nero was a Roman and the others weren't...

So why not Caligula? I mean he did appoint his horse consul of Rome, that's wicked crazy.

Well, I didn't write it. And I'm not defending it. Couldn't care less one way or another.

And I like Caligula - though I have friends who'll never let me forget that I made them watch that movie with Malcolm McDowell.

I was just pointing out that one of the names suggested was a Roman and the rest were not.

 

[StarTrek1701]

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The masses don't want challenging science fiction(not that even ST was very challenging, but they certainly don't want even THAT, as a group)after a hard day at the office/on the checkout/digging holes.

You are right about that. There should be a balance though.. equal amounts of action, humor and good stories would make the masses return, as proven by Heroes S1. When it becomes boring or has too much weight on its own then people leave as proven by NuBSG 2.5