Does this movie imply a possible re-emergence of the television series
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Do you mean an increased interest in the original series? I could see that happening. Those who come to love Star Trek tend to love it completely. And those who see Star Trek for the first time next week have an enormous catalog of material to watch to hold them over until a possible Abrams sequel. They might just give TOS a shot. I hope they would.
If your question is geared towards a possible new series, who knows? I think it's a pretty safe bet that if this film is successful, the first thing that will happen is a sequel, and after that, CBS television will certainly want to get a piece of the action (
) and commission a new TV series. If the numbers are right, such things always happen. That way, I could see a new series in about five years or so.
Do you mean an increased interest in the original series? I could see that happening. Those who come to love Star Trek tend to love it completely. And those who see Star Trek for the first time next week have an enormous catalog of material to watch to hold them over until a possible Abrams sequel. They might just give TOS a shot. I hope they would.
If your question is geared towards a possible new series, who knows? I think it's a pretty safe bet that if this film is successful, the first thing that will happen is a sequel, and after that, CBS television will certainly want to get a piece of the action (
) and commission a new TV series. If the numbers are right, such things always happen. That way, I could see a new series in about five years or so.
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A new series I can't see happening. Especially when stars like Simon Pegg and Zachory Quinto are tied up in other things (although we're going to see a long break for Quinto in Volume Five of Heroes 'cause they worked the storyline around him filming ST).
Although, I won't rule out a possible new series that will tie in to a second film. Along with a new crew on a different ship detailing the events after (or even prior) to ST XI. Like the Heroes shorts they keep bringing out., but I wouldn't bet on JJ or any writers going over to the new series (if this long-shot of an idea happened, I can see a few cameos and perhaps the first episode directed by JJ).
Of course, Robau might have his own TV series, although I'm not sure if our TV's will be able to cope with the awesomeness of him.
A new series I can't see happening. Especially when stars like Simon Pegg and Zachory Quinto are tied up in other things (although we're going to see a long break for Quinto in Volume Five of Heroes 'cause they worked the storyline around him filming ST).
Although, I won't rule out a possible new series that will tie in to a second film. Along with a new crew on a different ship detailing the events after (or even prior) to ST XI. Like the Heroes shorts they keep bringing out., but I wouldn't bet on JJ or any writers going over to the new series (if this long-shot of an idea happened, I can see a few cameos and perhaps the first episode directed by JJ).
Of course, Robau might have his own TV series, although I'm not sure if our TV's will be able to cope with the awesomeness of him.
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The back bone of trek has always been the series on T.V. and I think it is natural if this film and the following are successes then trek will return to the small screen. I highly doubt they would even try to put the big screen actors on a weekly television show though. Would probably be much too expensive.
The back bone of trek has always been the series on T.V. and I think it is natural if this film and the following are successes then trek will return to the small screen. I highly doubt they would even try to put the big screen actors on a weekly television show though. Would probably be much too expensive.
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I agree and with Eddie Roth's take from the business aspect.
Two or 3 feature films before we see a series.
If you guys post answers in more detailed ideas for plans, plotlines, actors for a series this thread will get moved to Future of Trek...so I guess that leaves us with the business and marketing aspects.
Due to the amount of time to prepare a series though I could see them doing what SyFy (then Sci-Fi) channel did with nuBSG with a miniseries just like what they are doing last week with the DVD of "Caprica".
I agree and with Eddie Roth's take from the business aspect.
Two or 3 feature films before we see a series.
If you guys post answers in more detailed ideas for plans, plotlines, actors for a series this thread will get moved to Future of Trek...so I guess that leaves us with the business and marketing aspects.
Due to the amount of time to prepare a series though I could see them doing what SyFy (then Sci-Fi) channel did with nuBSG with a miniseries just like what they are doing last week with the DVD of "Caprica".
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Part of what got "Star Trek" in trouble over the last 15 years was the over satuartion of it's market. At one point they had two series on tv as well as new films being produced.
I don't think they want to over do it at this point. I hope they don't produce a tv series for a long time.
Part of what got "Star Trek" in trouble over the last 15 years was the over satuartion of it's market. At one point they had two series on tv as well as new films being produced.
I don't think they want to over do it at this point. I hope they don't produce a tv series for a long time.
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Well, hopefully Paramount and CBS Television have learned their lesson from the TNG/DS9 and DS9/VOY overlap and won't let something like that happen again.
Still, any new show is several years in the future — they'd be foolish to commission a new one solely based on the success of Trek XI, but if XII and XIII continue to build on XI's (anticipated) success, a new show is almost inevitable.
Well, hopefully Paramount and CBS Television have learned their lesson from the TNG/DS9 and DS9/VOY overlap and won't let something like that happen again.
Still, any new show is several years in the future — they'd be foolish to commission a new one solely based on the success of Trek XI, but if XII and XIII continue to build on XI's (anticipated) success, a new show is almost inevitable.
Re: Does this movie imply a possible re-emergence of the television se
Star Trek was a format for a weekly series. It is the weekly immersion in a fleshed-out universe that got almost all of us hooked on whatever incarnation we cherish. The movies have been spotty at best, with a very different feel from their respective series.
I suppose Paramount-Sony-whateverthemachineiscallednextweek will do whatever will make its shareholders and executives the most dough. That's the rules of the game here.
But a GOOD series with a Trekkish ethos - wouldn't it be loverly?
Star Trek was a format for a weekly series. It is the weekly immersion in a fleshed-out universe that got almost all of us hooked on whatever incarnation we cherish. The movies have been spotty at best, with a very different feel from their respective series.
I suppose Paramount-Sony-whateverthemachineiscallednextweek will do whatever will make its shareholders and executives the most dough. That's the rules of the game here.
But a GOOD series with a Trekkish ethos - wouldn't it be loverly?
RobertScorpio
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I hope you are totally wrong. Doing another series now would be wrong headed and foolish and would gut this emerging movie series. There is enough STAR TREK TV episodes to last a lifetime. Making more new episodes, which will no doubt reuse sets from the new movies, will only make the movies look like two-hour episodes of a series, and Joe Q public will not fork over big bucks for movie. Nemesis and Insurrection, two movies that were not even as good as mediocre episodes, left a dirty taste in the mouth of regular non-trek-geek movie going public. Why on earth they (paramount) would risk this is beyond me...
JJabrams is no dummy. I am quite sure there will be no STAR TREK TV series until, at least, after the second movie comes out, and even then, months later.
STAR TREK TV SERIES has been done to death. No reason to give CPR to that dead monkey.
PS..the pink slips given to BERMAN/BRAGA and the cast and crew of ENTERPRISE (4 years instead of 7) are all the proof I need that STAR TREK TV should be left in the past...we are in the big leagues now (BIG BUDGETED MOVIES) and that is where TREK should stay...IMO
Rob
I hope you are totally wrong. Doing another series now would be wrong headed and foolish and would gut this emerging movie series. There is enough STAR TREK TV episodes to last a lifetime. Making more new episodes, which will no doubt reuse sets from the new movies, will only make the movies look like two-hour episodes of a series, and Joe Q public will not fork over big bucks for movie. Nemesis and Insurrection, two movies that were not even as good as mediocre episodes, left a dirty taste in the mouth of regular non-trek-geek movie going public. Why on earth they (paramount) would risk this is beyond me...
JJabrams is no dummy. I am quite sure there will be no STAR TREK TV series until, at least, after the second movie comes out, and even then, months later.
STAR TREK TV SERIES has been done to death. No reason to give CPR to that dead monkey.
PS..the pink slips given to BERMAN/BRAGA and the cast and crew of ENTERPRISE (4 years instead of 7) are all the proof I need that STAR TREK TV should be left in the past...we are in the big leagues now (BIG BUDGETED MOVIES) and that is where TREK should stay...IMO
Rob
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I dunno - it sounds like we're bounding into the realm of wishful thinking here.
"Spider-Man" didn't spawn a series, nor did "Lord of the Rings." Jay Leno is eating up an hour of Prime-Time every working day now - it costs them practically nothing. Reality TV is still in full force. This movie cost a king's ransom to make; a series would go bankrupt on just replicating the lens flares.
Spider-Man without cash is a guy in a gimp suit; LOTR without cash is Xena, Warrior Princess. Star Trek without cash is VOY/ENT.
"But it could be TNG!" Yeah - I remember that one. I remember playing with my Playstation 1 after watching it. Five years after the last episode aired, Playstation 2 was released.
Welcome to the real truth of "Star Trek - Generations." TOS Trek is nostalgia - corny, preachy, melodramatic, talky... the single most beautiful thing in my childhood, still beloved... and in three years, I'll be eligible for AARP discounts. This series is unacceptable for sale to modern audiences. TNG Trek is also now nostalgia - smug, corporate, Uber-preachy, nose-altered aliens... much beloved by thirty year old geeks, but you're not gonna capture the "Halo" crowd who can play more exciting scenarios on a videogame than they can afford to deliver on a weekly basis.
"OK - Then what aout BSG?" Sure - they could do that. Rust up the Enterprise. Make the Captain an alcoholic, Spock battle depression.... essentially all those things that CSI made fun of with that "Redux" episode. And all the Trekkies go "You Suck!!!" Star Trek is all about the bright, shiney future! You've raped my childhood! Soo.... no.
To this day, you've got people whining that Fatner isn't in the film. People here are GRUDGINGLY now accepting this new crew, against their own will. So what happens when the newly spawned "Waah, Quinto/Pine aren't in the show" people start crying?
A Different crew? We're back in ENT territory again, with no goodwill towards the crew nd at the mercy of the writers and production team to find a winning formula on a budget. Assuming the Quinto/Pineprise would still be spinning sequels, the sour grapes on this board would peel paint.
The future is fluid - anything can happen. But on a pragmatic level, a new series is going to be a nightmare to get right, and rushing into it would be Russian Roulete with the franchise.
I dunno - it sounds like we're bounding into the realm of wishful thinking here.
"Spider-Man" didn't spawn a series, nor did "Lord of the Rings." Jay Leno is eating up an hour of Prime-Time every working day now - it costs them practically nothing. Reality TV is still in full force. This movie cost a king's ransom to make; a series would go bankrupt on just replicating the lens flares.
Spider-Man without cash is a guy in a gimp suit; LOTR without cash is Xena, Warrior Princess. Star Trek without cash is VOY/ENT.
"But it could be TNG!" Yeah - I remember that one. I remember playing with my Playstation 1 after watching it. Five years after the last episode aired, Playstation 2 was released.
Welcome to the real truth of "Star Trek - Generations." TOS Trek is nostalgia - corny, preachy, melodramatic, talky... the single most beautiful thing in my childhood, still beloved... and in three years, I'll be eligible for AARP discounts. This series is unacceptable for sale to modern audiences. TNG Trek is also now nostalgia - smug, corporate, Uber-preachy, nose-altered aliens... much beloved by thirty year old geeks, but you're not gonna capture the "Halo" crowd who can play more exciting scenarios on a videogame than they can afford to deliver on a weekly basis.
"OK - Then what aout BSG?" Sure - they could do that. Rust up the Enterprise. Make the Captain an alcoholic, Spock battle depression.... essentially all those things that CSI made fun of with that "Redux" episode. And all the Trekkies go "You Suck!!!" Star Trek is all about the bright, shiney future! You've raped my childhood! Soo.... no.
To this day, you've got people whining that Fatner isn't in the film. People here are GRUDGINGLY now accepting this new crew, against their own will. So what happens when the newly spawned "Waah, Quinto/Pine aren't in the show" people start crying?
A Different crew? We're back in ENT territory again, with no goodwill towards the crew nd at the mercy of the writers and production team to find a winning formula on a budget. Assuming the Quinto/Pineprise would still be spinning sequels, the sour grapes on this board would peel paint.
The future is fluid - anything can happen. But on a pragmatic level, a new series is going to be a nightmare to get right, and rushing into it would be Russian Roulete with the franchise.
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There will be a new series. But, like the new films, it will be different from any Trek we've had before, as TV storytelling has developed in many ways.
If they get it right, it will be glorious.
There will be a new series. But, like the new films, it will be different from any Trek we've had before, as TV storytelling has developed in many ways.
If they get it right, it will be glorious.
RobertScorpio
Pariah
Re: Does this movie imply a possible re-emergence of the television se
You nailed it...that is EXACTLY what they should do. However, if you were to post this in the TREK BOOK FORUM on this site; it could get you a warning!!! Some of the fans of star trek have no idea that the TREK TV has been done to death. And that is why going back there, with a winning movie series, would be foolish...hopefully smater minds (JJABRAMS) can see this as well.
Rob
You nailed it...that is EXACTLY what they should do. However, if you were to post this in the TREK BOOK FORUM on this site; it could get you a warning!!! Some of the fans of star trek have no idea that the TREK TV has been done to death. And that is why going back there, with a winning movie series, would be foolish...hopefully smater minds (JJABRAMS) can see this as well.
Rob
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Robert is right. Another series would undercut this new film series.
I believe there will be a time when Trek returns to television, perhaps another recast of TOS or a TNG spun-off of this new film universe.
But, for now, I feel strongly that Star Trek remain only in the domain of the cinema.
Robert is right. Another series would undercut this new film series.
I believe there will be a time when Trek returns to television, perhaps another recast of TOS or a TNG spun-off of this new film universe.
But, for now, I feel strongly that Star Trek remain only in the domain of the cinema.
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I hope that if they do plan a new series, it's at least 3-5 years down the line. Trek died once because of over-saturation. It'd be a shame if it happened again since it'd be a lot harder to revive it next time.
I hope that if they do plan a new series, it's at least 3-5 years down the line. Trek died once because of over-saturation. It'd be a shame if it happened again since it'd be a lot harder to revive it next time.
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Now this I agree with. A new TV series should be after the movie series has run for a bit.
Now this I agree with. A new TV series should be after the movie series has run for a bit.
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Oh, and only one series at a time.
Oh, and only one series at a time.
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I wouldn't mind a TV series but it would probably be best to not do so for a while. Keep it as a series of movies for a while and make them a big event. Hype the shit out of em and try and re-do what happened in the 80s
I wouldn't mind a TV series but it would probably be best to not do so for a while. Keep it as a series of movies for a while and make them a big event. Hype the shit out of em and try and re-do what happened in the 80s
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