Red Dwarf, this weekend
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I can't believe people are actually sticking up for this shit with the old "you just didn't get it" defence.
Oh, I beg your pardon. That's comic genius right there.
Hey Jim, just throwing something out here - I really like Family Guy.
Perhaps that's where our problem lies?
I started watching, then decided I couldn't be arsed. I'm feeling rubbish and can't be bothered with it. I've decided to get an early night instead. I've recorded it instead.Yes Bob, I am watching it right now. My wife is watching it with me, and she hasn't laughed yet, I showed her the Youtube video and she laughed at the sneezing joke.
I can't believe people are actually sticking up for this shit with the old "you just didn't get it" defence.
Oh, I beg your pardon. That's comic genius right there.
Hey Jim, just throwing something out here - I really like Family Guy.
So do I.
Perhaps that's where our problem lies?
We have a problem?
Why do you NEED 25 Episodes tho? If the Story can be told in 8 or 12 or 16 or whatever..
Can you see Spaced lasting 25 eps.. er NO. would be shite.
Why do you want things to last 25 eps. its just cos that how TV works in america.
like how people insist that MM/DD/YYYY makes more sense then DD/MM/YYYY cos 'I always speak the date as April 5 2063, so lets write it as 04/05/63'
bullshit.
you SAY the date with the month first cos you're used to reading it in the more non-sensical MM/DD/YYYY way.
basically. it dont need to last 100 eps.. if you look at shows. Friends.. they are awesome, but they do suck sorta.. they dont NEED to have that many episodes.. the real events only happened at Season's End..
now back to say Spaced.. all quality, no filler.. didnt last too long.. *cough* Simpsons *cough*
Somethings shouldnt continue un-ness.. and shouldnt be brought back once they've died..
I just watched the episodes back to back on Dave and was pleasently surprised. I kept my expectations low after seeing the onset photos from Corrie, as did my friend. The first part especially had me with Lister and Rimmer bantering in their bunks like the good old days.
The episodes weren't classic Dwarf by far, and I agree with a lot of people saying episode 2 wasn't much cop at all. It was just such a pleasure seeing these guys together again. It was intermittently funny, which is more than I'd hoped for, and it made me very nostalgic for the series. Craig Charles in particular was very good! If a series is bankrolled off this project I would be very wary though.
The episodes weren't classic Dwarf by far, and I agree with a lot of people saying episode 2 wasn't much cop at all. It was just such a pleasure seeing these guys together again. It was intermittently funny, which is more than I'd hoped for, and it made me very nostalgic for the series. Craig Charles in particular was very good! If a series is bankrolled off this project I would be very wary though.
The first one is quite good, at the very least it feels more like Red Dwarf with it.
I just finished watching the three in a row and I have to say I quite liked them. Maybe that has partly to do with the absolute abyssmal mood here for them and my expectations were at below zero.
On the CGI - From what you whingeing lot were saying, I expected to see matte lines and early 90's style CGI. Fact is, I have NEVER seen ANY CGI in ANY English production that matches ILM or Weta and that's fine because those guys are the absolute tops and gold standard! The CGI in these specials was GREAT, even by UK standards and certainly, compared to the old series, it was AMAZING!!! The internal ship scenes had depth and it certainly LOOKED better than the old "Here is a model interior and here is the crew matted into a corner from a very long way away". I have seen people here complaining about the CGI scutter and all I can say is, it sounds to me like you were the kind of societally challenged couch potato who sat there, checklist in hand, ready to tick off what you would hate about the show. I am just glad there was a scutter there at all because THAT feels like early RD.
I don't know what you were all expecting - RD has ALWAYS been silly and very juvenile. I have a friend who heard all the buzz about the show in the late 90's and when he finally saw it was disgusted - he told me it felt like something a bunch of fourteen year old high school students had written and you know what? I kinda had to agree with him. The thing is, I first saw RD when I was about twenty one and as quite a juvenile typical male, appreciated a good poo going back up someone's bum joke and, for me, RD was GREAT!!!
Doesn't mean that in the intervening years I have changed how I see the show and now see it as some kind of seminal masterpiece. If anything, the early series now look even more naff and the writing is even more unpolished compared to what I watch today. But all that doesn't matter because, for me and I am sure hundreds of thousands of other people, RD is about that core group of guys(and later a girl)who diss and take the piss out of each other while having adventures in science fiction in a way that only the absurdist Brits could make. I LOVE "Red Dwarf" and always will and while yes, this show was not up to the golden years of series five, it was a lot of fun to see them all back together. I personally love that the Brits do this kind of thing with specials and limited runs of shows - something the bloody yanks would never do.
So my advice is stop seeing the old show through rose coloured glasses and enjoy RD, poo and fart jones and metaphysical conundra all for what it is.
Oh and PS - thanks to the poster above for saying what I have been thinking for YEARS about the fucking STUPID and ARSE BACKWARDS Yank way of writing dates. It is fucking ridiculous and just another way the bloody yanks want to be different to the rest of the world.
On the CGI - From what you whingeing lot were saying, I expected to see matte lines and early 90's style CGI. Fact is, I have NEVER seen ANY CGI in ANY English production that matches ILM or Weta and that's fine because those guys are the absolute tops and gold standard! The CGI in these specials was GREAT, even by UK standards and certainly, compared to the old series, it was AMAZING!!! The internal ship scenes had depth and it certainly LOOKED better than the old "Here is a model interior and here is the crew matted into a corner from a very long way away". I have seen people here complaining about the CGI scutter and all I can say is, it sounds to me like you were the kind of societally challenged couch potato who sat there, checklist in hand, ready to tick off what you would hate about the show. I am just glad there was a scutter there at all because THAT feels like early RD.
I don't know what you were all expecting - RD has ALWAYS been silly and very juvenile. I have a friend who heard all the buzz about the show in the late 90's and when he finally saw it was disgusted - he told me it felt like something a bunch of fourteen year old high school students had written and you know what? I kinda had to agree with him. The thing is, I first saw RD when I was about twenty one and as quite a juvenile typical male, appreciated a good poo going back up someone's bum joke and, for me, RD was GREAT!!!
Doesn't mean that in the intervening years I have changed how I see the show and now see it as some kind of seminal masterpiece. If anything, the early series now look even more naff and the writing is even more unpolished compared to what I watch today. But all that doesn't matter because, for me and I am sure hundreds of thousands of other people, RD is about that core group of guys(and later a girl)who diss and take the piss out of each other while having adventures in science fiction in a way that only the absurdist Brits could make. I LOVE "Red Dwarf" and always will and while yes, this show was not up to the golden years of series five, it was a lot of fun to see them all back together. I personally love that the Brits do this kind of thing with specials and limited runs of shows - something the bloody yanks would never do.
So my advice is stop seeing the old show through rose coloured glasses and enjoy RD, poo and fart jones and metaphysical conundra all for what it is.
Oh and PS - thanks to the poster above for saying what I have been thinking for YEARS about the fucking STUPID and ARSE BACKWARDS Yank way of writing dates. It is fucking ridiculous and just another way the bloody yanks want to be different to the rest of the world.
I didn't say it was ROFL hilarious. I'm just saying it was their intent to lay it on thicker and thicker as the ep progressed.I can't believe people are actually sticking up for this shit with the old "you just didn't get it" defence.
Oh, I beg your pardon. That's comic genius right there.
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I have to agree with this. The on-ship stuff looked fantastic imho. (then again I'm a Babylon 5 fan so... probably not the best judge)
No rose tinted glasses here. I watched the entire thing, from "The End" to "Only The Good" not 3 weeks ago in preparation for this special. Perhaps childhood nostalgia is colouring my feelings, but I can't accept that Back To Earth matched series 1-6 on any point. For a start, I didn't find it funny, which is a pretty damning thing when watching a sitcom.
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Now now, he's just American.
To what Bacl said before which I evidently missed. I wasn't complaining that there was three episodes in a series, I just didn't get that series nine was completely off-screen and thought that, if only for a few minutes, that Back to Earth was a series.
As for Doctor Who, these four episodes aren't a series, well... technically speaking they are the final four episodes of series four, but they're spacing out the specials for various reasons, and we were told way ahead of time that this would be the case.
Edit: Spaced FTW.
Well, there was a bit of an increase in ratings for the final episode.
It's got pretty decent numbers, hasn't it? Or are they? Dunno. I'm hoping that we get a final season, with a proper goodbye.
I'm surprised there was such a drop off from the first part. It wasn't too bad imho. Maybe a lot of people didn't realise it was a nightly event and assumed it would be on next friday?
Reaching, I know.
Reaching, I know.
Or a lot of people were watching other stuff, I mean it was saturday with tons of other popular stuff on.
Im not viewing it through rose tinted glasses. Its fairly easy to compare the new stuff to the old series when Dave shows the old series straight after the new episodes.
Compared to Back to Reality, the episode that the new stuff was just a complete rehash of, which was on straight afterwards, Back to Earth is utter crap. Back to Reality did the metaphysical idea a lot better, defined Listers character a lot better, and was a lot funnier to boot. With every new episode produced after the end of series six it becomes increasingly clear who the talent was behind Red Dwarf.
Back to Earth was a pale imitation of what Red Dwarf used to be, which is pretty much how its been since Rob Grant left.
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