I actually got a mental image of that...
Red Dwarf, this weekend
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Do whatever the fuck you like. Just sayin' is all.
I protest! Donnie Darko was some things happening based on the worlds most idiotic plot that would have Spock raising an eyebrow and saying "Highly Illogical, Jim, and a bit crap."
I have friends who, for them, quality Red Dwarf ended with the last episode of series 2.
Many people reject series 7 & 8. I used to dislike them myself, but I have recently had the chance to re-assess them - there are still a couple of episodes I don't like alot in 7, but there are also some of the best episodes there too (Stoke me a Clipper is classic). And 8 is great really - it contains some of the funniest stuff in the whole series run imo.
Still, I couldn't get my series 1&2 purist friends to watch any of them if I tried - for them, their mind is made up.
The new easter specials may not be classic Red Dwarf at it's most brilliant, but then neither was classic Red Dwarf half the time - it was frequently funny, occasionally hilarious and rarely brilliant. It was also often juvinile, crass & derivitive. All IMO, but the consistency many fans apply to it is more due to the rose-colouredness of our memory and the appeal it had at the time to our younger selves more than the shows true performance.
I thought that, for what it was, it was fine. It made me laugh in spots, in others not so much, but to me it still felt like the old show. The photo-enhancement gag & Kryten talking to the mailbox had me in stitches, and bits in the last episode had me rivetted at times. But the way it ends pointing to a brighter future for all Red Dwarf fans (well, for those who don't feel Red Dwarf died at the end of series 2, or 5 or 6 or 8 or whatever) I found particularly redeeming, heartwarming and enduring.
Whatever though. Your mileage will no doubt vary. Some people look at something and see gold, others the same thing and see a turd. Eye of the beholder and all that..
Yep. The show's long had a way of going in exactly the wrong direction but eventually managing to make it funny.
Bummed they didn't do more with the Corrie stuff, but I suspect I may be the only person in this thread who actually likes Corrie. As for the Blade Runner stuff... it had its moments. The whole idea of finding out you're not real and wondering how much more time you have was a nice touch. But those of you who have never seen Blade Runner... well. First, it's a brilliant movie, and second, a lot of Back to Earth looks unlikely to make much sense for people who haven't seen it.
Stunning surprise, that something called "Back to Earth" should resemble an earlier episode called "Back to Reality," isn't it?
Oh, and I didn't expect Back to Earth would resolve the cliffhanger from series VIII, based on the rumours about the storyline. I wondered how they'd get around it. They couldn't do the sped-up text crawl gag from series III again. So the "Nine years later" with no further info struck me as funny.
Im sorry, leather and Boobs go a long way but the moment she said "Theres a reason the aristocracy survived" I wanted to kill her. I dont mean Viki Christina Barcelona of whatever the fuck her characters name is, If Michelle Ryan were in front of me i'd have bashed her to death with my remote control for not having the common decency to say "Thats a shit line" to the writers. I mean, honestly...how could any sane person think thats a clever, witty iconic piece of dialogue?
Not to mention the idiocy of shooting the episode in Dubai, when a studio with a load of Sand and a blue screen would have got the job done a hell of a lot cheaper. Most of the desert in that episode was Composited anyway, so the laborious process of transporting the cast to Dubai was foolish and unneccessary and I feel loathed - no, ESPECIALLY loathed to be paying for a License Fee when it goes toward shit like that.
And what someone else said about foreshadowing? I mean is "four knocks" REALLY forshadowing? Its blatantly the Master, who they made a big deal of "He hears Drums" for some reason and knocked in rhythms of four every time they needed to fill a scene...
I await the day Stephen Moffat takes creative control of the show. I dont give a damn about originality when the watchability of the show is near zero. I could watch Back to Earth because I was looking forward to it, and regardless of the overall quality it did make me laugh, which is the hardest thing to get right, so regardless if them setting out to make a Blade Runner piss take and succeeding is "original" or not, It was entertaining. Moreso than an hour of watching David Tennant eating an Easter Egg and speaking really fast in HD was...
Bit late coming to the party but thought I'd add my two pence worth as well.
I'll be honest, I wasn't expecting much. I haven't watched much RD in years and the whole 2009 setting did not appeal at all.When I watched the first episode I was pleasantly surprised. The music, the characters, suddenly I remembered why I used to love the show.
The second episode was poor but thankfully the third one redeemed it; somewhat.
The plus for me was that the cast have still got it, seriously it was like they hadn't been away, and I for one would love to see a new series now...but....
But they have to get some new blood in on the writing side of things. Back to Earth was incredibnly unoriginal in almost every way. The Blade Runner bits were amusing, but again not really original for obvious reasons.
The premise is still sound, the cast are still brilliant, but the ideas need to be better.
I'll be honest, I wasn't expecting much. I haven't watched much RD in years and the whole 2009 setting did not appeal at all.When I watched the first episode I was pleasantly surprised. The music, the characters, suddenly I remembered why I used to love the show.
The second episode was poor but thankfully the third one redeemed it; somewhat.
The plus for me was that the cast have still got it, seriously it was like they hadn't been away, and I for one would love to see a new series now...but....
But they have to get some new blood in on the writing side of things. Back to Earth was incredibnly unoriginal in almost every way. The Blade Runner bits were amusing, but again not really original for obvious reasons.
The premise is still sound, the cast are still brilliant, but the ideas need to be better.
I read from page 1 to page 12, then sipeed the rest.
My God, what a bunch of whining! It was bad! And I've been in the STXI threads! You ought to be ashamed of yourselves! It's a fucking TV show!
"Ooo, they didn't have Holly! Ooo, there was no lafftrack! Ooo, it was derivative! Ooo, they ripped off Blade Runner! Ooo, THEY RAPED MY CHILDHOOD!"
All that kind of whining is why producers of all stripes don't take SF fans seriously. The endless nitpicks. The endless complaints. The endless"it's not as good as the old stuff" (when the old stuff wasn't as good as you remembered anyway).
To be (a little bit) fair, it was MUCH better to watch it io one hit. Watching it on a per episode basis would not have been enjoyable. The real problem, in that regard, was that all the payoff was in the last episode. It would have made a really good 1 hour ep, I think.
For me, who did watch it in one hit, it wasn't great, but it was fun. Pretty much what I thought about the Who special as well. Why can't you just kick back and have fun, for fuck's sake? It's not hard.
My God, what a bunch of whining! It was bad! And I've been in the STXI threads! You ought to be ashamed of yourselves! It's a fucking TV show!
"Ooo, they didn't have Holly! Ooo, there was no lafftrack! Ooo, it was derivative! Ooo, they ripped off Blade Runner! Ooo, THEY RAPED MY CHILDHOOD!"
All that kind of whining is why producers of all stripes don't take SF fans seriously. The endless nitpicks. The endless complaints. The endless"it's not as good as the old stuff" (when the old stuff wasn't as good as you remembered anyway).
To be (a little bit) fair, it was MUCH better to watch it io one hit. Watching it on a per episode basis would not have been enjoyable. The real problem, in that regard, was that all the payoff was in the last episode. It would have made a really good 1 hour ep, I think.
For me, who did watch it in one hit, it wasn't great, but it was fun. Pretty much what I thought about the Who special as well. Why can't you just kick back and have fun, for fuck's sake? It's not hard.
My favourite was this quote by Terrorfex -
I was almost considering putting that in my sig..
Damn straight Donnie Darko shares similarities with "Father's Day":
* Both are set in the late 1980s.
* Both involve a serious time paradox.
* Both involve a man made piece of machinery going round in circles.
* This piece of machinery was supposed to kill somebody.
* The Universe is saved by the said person allowing himself to be killed by said machinery.
I call it as I see it.
Part 1 was ok but I felt not much happened. Part 2 I liked quite a bit, finding they were a TV show seems very red dwarfish concept to me. Looking for howmany episodes they had left seemed a bit lame. Part 3 I almost pissed myself laughing at the Corrie bits. The blade Runner stuff wasn't so much parody as it was rip off, using a lot of dialogue from the movie and making it resemble too much in look also. Why not just rip the piss out of it a bit more? Great to see (spoiler) at the end and that Lister is back to his goal of the first 2 seasons. I had hoped they'd mention something about the cliffhanger of season 8. I am willing to guess that Rimmer is the old Rimmer who was Ace Rimmer. I say that because he didn't seem surprised or question about the despair squid. Using the despair squid again was a bit lame. "Back to Reality" was the most popular episode so I guess they wanted to copy that success.
Why reuse a highly successful concept with diminished results?
Some info on the DVD release, but where's the Blu-Ray version Dave were promising?
Wow, £20 for a 3 part DVD?
I suppose it IS a feature length presentation, but I was expecting £20-£25 for a Blu Ray, let alone a DVD.
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