It Is Siberius ! Confirmed using Software.

[shapeshifter]

To be fair there is an s sound from the end of James, but there is a t sound as well.

Yes --
To be fair he did say 'Jamestiberius Kirk', running the last letter in "James" together with the first letter in "Tiberius", so it could have sounded like "Stiberius" to some...
...but even if he ran that names together, he still said "Tiberius" as the second part of that run-on name.

This.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Dude, its Bank Holliday Monday, go get pissed or something.

Don't tell them that - in America, "getting pissed" means something different. We've quite enough of it in this forum.

 

[Nerdius Maximus]

Wow, the things we can accomplish with science nowdays. Now if we could just get rid of all those pesky diseases we've been dying of for thousands of years...Right after we develop tv's that allow you to zoom in on the actor's face at a molecular level!

 

[darkshadow0001]

I have watched the trailers many,many times on hi-fi equipment and you can argue all you like but he definitely says Siberius, not Tiberius.

This has been gnawing away at me for months when I was in bed and I finally decided to do something about it.

To get final proof I used software which can analyse sounds and finally confirm what I am hearing is Siberius not Tiberius.

I also used wavepad which can show the waveform.I isolated the first part of the sound and compared with the S sound I speak and other generic S's.

Comparison of general phonetic S sounds with the first part of the word will confirm.

I think that kid either needs elocution lessons or someone mistyped his script using an S instead of a T.

I would also ask else to confirm the results I got using their own software.

Oh geez, not this stuff again. The kid says Tiberius... I think someone needs to clean their ears out...

Besides, if you confirmed otherwise by using software, how do we know for sure the confirmation wasn't altered to make it sound like Siberius (which it is not)

 

[Sector 7]

Using software God invented and aliens planted in my head...
I distinctly heard him say, "My name is JamesIThinkIJustWetMyselfFallingOverAFrakkinCliffTiberiusKirk, asswipe!" It was just a little slurred so I can't be sure...

 

[The Badger]

James Siberius Kirk is a lad in the same class as James Tiberius Kirk. They really don't get on well. So after destroying the car J.T. Kirk lies about his name to get the other Kirk in trouble.

 

[yakueb]

I have watched the trailers many,many times on hi-fi equipment and you can argue all you like but he definitely says Siberius, not Tiberius.

This has been gnawing away at me for months when I was in bed and I finally decided to do something about it.

To get final proof I used software which can analyse sounds and finally confirm what I am hearing is Siberius not Tiberius.

I also used wavepad which can show the waveform.I isolated the first part of the sound and compared with the S sound I speak and other generic S's.

Comparison of general phonetic S sounds with the first part of the word will confirm.

I think that kid either needs elocution lessons or someone mistyped his script using an S instead of a T.

I would also ask else to confirm the results I got using their own software.

So, I have to ask, exactly what type of software are you using? It sure sounds pretty high end, you know, the kind of thing that either was written specifically for a certain set of experiments by a university professor, or costs a ton of money.

Could you name-drop the software your using? It would help your case. See, I really don't think such technology exists - that kind of software is always a tool that doesn't really do anything unless an expert is using it.

I just find it unlikely that you are an expert in linguistics that can't type.

Also, he clearly uses a voiceless alveolar plosive when he says his middle name.

 

[ManOnTheWave]

Okay. Little Jimmy has a lisp. I don't care.

 

[CaptainHawk1]

I have watched the trailers many,many times on hi-fi equipment and you can argue all you like but he definitely says Siberius, not Tiberius.

This has been gnawing away at me for months when I was in bed and I finally decided to do something about it.

To get final proof I used software which can analyse sounds and finally confirm what I am hearing is Siberius not Tiberius.

I also used wavepad which can show the waveform.I isolated the first part of the sound and compared with the S sound I speak and other generic S's.

Comparison of general phonetic S sounds with the first part of the word will confirm.

I think that kid either needs elocution lessons or someone mistyped his script using an S instead of a T.

I would also ask else to confirm the results I got using their own software.

 

[noknowes]

I have watched the trailers many,many times on hi-fi equipment and you can argue all you like but he definitely says Siberius, not Tiberius.

This has been gnawing away at me for months when I was in bed and I finally decided to do something about it.

To get final proof I used software which can analyse sounds and finally confirm what I am hearing is Siberius not Tiberius.

I also used wavepad which can show the waveform.I isolated the first part of the sound and compared with the S sound I speak and other generic S's.

Comparison of general phonetic S sounds with the first part of the word will confirm.

I think that kid either needs elocution lessons or someone mistyped his script using an S instead of a T.

I would also ask else to confirm the results I got using their own software.

So, I have to ask, exactly what type of software are you using? It sure sounds pretty high end, you know, the kind of thing that either was written specifically for a certain set of experiments by a university professor, or costs a ton of money.

Could you name-drop the software your using? It would help your case. See, I really don't think such technology exists - that kind of software is always a tool that doesn't really do anything unless an expert is using it.

I just find it unlikely that you are an expert in linguistics that can't type.

Also, he clearly uses a voiceless alveolar plosive when he says his middle name.

I used Goldwave version 5.02, Wavosaur 1.00 and Audacity as well.

These programs are largely low cost or free.You can even use music composing software just like sound engineers in music studios.The software gives you a visual display.You can zoom right in to a sound down to microseconds.You don't have to be a linguistics expert at all.Most musicians are not.

You can even use midi software.

I carefully measured the space and timings between James Siberius.
I could not find a t sound at all.It was always S,confirming my worst fears.

What I did was rip the sound from all the trailers including the official high quality trailers.I then cut out the bits Jam-- and --berius.

I then analyzed the "essi" bit over and over again.
I must have played it more than a thousand times and I just could not find the t in James-iberious. I could only detect an S sound.

I am very,very tired now as it took nearly all of my holiday weekend.

I ask others to repeat the analysis to confirm my fears and then we could mail them to JJ Abrams.

 

[shapeshifter]

So what if it is an S, it wont be the first time we've seen his middle initial changed.

 

[CaptainHawk1]

I have watched the trailers many,many times on hi-fi equipment and you can argue all you like but he definitely says Siberius, not Tiberius.

This has been gnawing away at me for months when I was in bed and I finally decided to do something about it.

To get final proof I used software which can analyse sounds and finally confirm what I am hearing is Siberius not Tiberius.

I also used wavepad which can show the waveform.I isolated the first part of the sound and compared with the S sound I speak and other generic S's.

Comparison of general phonetic S sounds with the first part of the word will confirm.

I think that kid either needs elocution lessons or someone mistyped his script using an S instead of a T.

I would also ask else to confirm the results I got using their own software.

So, I have to ask, exactly what type of software are you using? It sure sounds pretty high end, you know, the kind of thing that either was written specifically for a certain set of experiments by a university professor, or costs a ton of money.

Could you name-drop the software your using? It would help your case. See, I really don't think such technology exists - that kind of software is always a tool that doesn't really do anything unless an expert is using it.

I just find it unlikely that you are an expert in linguistics that can't type.

Also, he clearly uses a voiceless alveolar plosive when he says his middle name.

I used Goldwave version 5.02, Wavosaur 1.00 and Audacity as well.

These programs are largely low cost or free.You can even use music composing software just like sound engineers in music studios.The software gives you a visual display.You can zoom right in to a sound down to microseconds.You don't have to be a linguistics expert at all.Most musicians are not.

You can even use midi software.

I carefully measured the space and timings between James Siberius.
I could not find a t sound at all.It was always S,confirming my worst fears.

What I did was rip the sound from all the trailers including the official high quality trailers.I then cut out the bits Jam-- and --berius.

I then analyzed the "essi" bit over and over again.
I must have played it more than a thousand times and I just could not find the t in James-iberious. I could only detect an S sound.

I am very,very tired now as it took nearly all of my holiday weekend.

I ask others to repeat the analysis to confirm my fears and then we could mail them to JJ Abrams.

 

[Michael]

He says Tiberius.

I ask others to repeat the analysis to confirm my fears [...]

Fear? Seriously, fear?

 

[24thcenstfan]

I have listened to it dozens and dozens of times since the first trailer came out, and while there was a slight enunciation problem (blending of the first/middle name), I still think the kid said "Tiberius".

 

[M'Sharak]

I have watched the trailers many,many times on hi-fi equipment and you can argue all you like but he definitely says Siberius, not Tiberius.

This has been gnawing away at me for months when I was in bed and I finally decided to do something about it.

To get final proof I used software which can analyse sounds and finally confirm what I am hearing is Siberius not Tiberius.

I also used wavepad which can show the waveform.I isolated the first part of the sound and compared with the S sound I speak and other generic S's.

Comparison of general phonetic S sounds with the first part of the word will confirm.

I think that kid either needs elocution lessons or someone mistyped his script using an S instead of a T.

I would also ask someone else to confirm the results I got using their own software.

Already done, actually, about a week after the trailer hit the theaters in November -- see Squiggy(hey, I'm an audio engineer for NASA)fm's post here. Unfortunately, the image of the audio spectrum analysis is no longer there -- perhaps if he sees this, he might be able to dig it up again -- but it seemed to show pretty conclusively a hard 'T' sound, rather than a sibilant 'S' sound.

The cursor is set at the beginning of "Tiberius". As you can plainly see it has a hard sudden beginning indicating a "T" sound and not a soft ramping "bulge" look of an "S". You're hearing the s from James slur with the beginning of of the Tiberius.

That would be me...getting all CSI on yo ass!

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Come on, Hawk -- responding with only an image might be okay once, but the same thing twice is kinda pushing it. There's nothing wrong with going audio-geek on something if he so chooses; some of us think that sort of thing is fun.

 

[Kelso]

I am very,very tired now as it took nearly all of my holiday weekend.

I feel sad for you.

 

[ed629]

I have watched the trailers many,many times on hi-fi equipment and you can argue all you like but he definitely says Siberius, not Tiberius.

This has been gnawing away at me for months when I was in bed and I finally decided to do something about it.

To get final proof I used software which can analyse sounds and finally confirm what I am hearing is Siberius not Tiberius.

I also used wavepad which can show the waveform.I isolated the first part of the sound and compared with the S sound I speak and other generic S's.

Comparison of general phonetic S sounds with the first part of the word will confirm.

I think that kid either needs elocution lessons or someone mistyped his script using an S instead of a T.

I would also ask else to confirm the results I got using their own software.

So, I have to ask, exactly what type of software are you using? It sure sounds pretty high end, you know, the kind of thing that either was written specifically for a certain set of experiments by a university professor, or costs a ton of money.

Could you name-drop the software your using? It would help your case. See, I really don't think such technology exists - that kind of software is always a tool that doesn't really do anything unless an expert is using it.

I just find it unlikely that you are an expert in linguistics that can't type.

Also, he clearly uses a voiceless alveolar plosive when he says his middle name.

I used Goldwave version 5.02, Wavosaur 1.00 and Audacity as well.

These programs are largely low cost or free.You can even use music composing software just like sound engineers in music studios.The software gives you a visual display.You can zoom right in to a sound down to microseconds.You don't have to be a linguistics expert at all.Most musicians are not.

You can even use midi software.

I carefully measured the space and timings between James Siberius.
I could not find a t sound at all.It was always S,confirming my worst fears.

What I did was rip the sound from all the trailers including the official high quality trailers.I then cut out the bits Jam-- and --berius.

I then analyzed the "essi" bit over and over again.
I must have played it more than a thousand times and I just could not find the t in James-iberious. I could only detect an S sound.

I am very,very tired now as it took nearly all of my holiday weekend.

I ask others to repeat the analysis to confirm my fears and then we could mail them to JJ Abrams.

Hi I wasted a tremendous amount of time proving absolutely nothing... and now I am po'd that my efforts are being ridiculed.

 

[CaptainHawk1]

I have watched the trailers many,many times on hi-fi equipment and you can argue all you like but he definitely says Siberius, not Tiberius.

This has been gnawing away at me for months when I was in bed and I finally decided to do something about it.

To get final proof I used software which can analyse sounds and finally confirm what I am hearing is Siberius not Tiberius.

I also used wavepad which can show the waveform.I isolated the first part of the sound and compared with the S sound I speak and other generic S's.

Comparison of general phonetic S sounds with the first part of the word will confirm.

I think that kid either needs elocution lessons or someone mistyped his script using an S instead of a T.

I would also ask someone else to confirm the results I got using their own software.

Already done, actually, about a week after the trailer hit the theaters in November -- see Squiggy(hey, I'm an audio engineer for NASA)fm's post here. Unfortunately, the image of the audio spectrum analysis is no longer there -- perhaps if he sees this, he might be able to dig it up again -- but it seemed to show pretty conclusively a hard 'T' sound, rather than a sibilant 'S' sound.

The cursor is set at the beginning of "Tiberius". As you can plainly see it has a hard sudden beginning indicating a "T" sound and not a soft ramping "bulge" look of an "S". You're hearing the s from James slur with the beginning of of the Tiberius.

That would be me...getting all CSI on yo ass!

Edit:

<snip>

http://trekmovie.com/images/shatbookgetlife.jpg

Come on, Hawk -- responding with only an image might be okay once, but the same thing twice is kinda pushing it. There's nothing wrong with going audio-geek on something if he so chooses; some of us think that sort of thing is fun.

I don't have an issue with the OP going audio-geek what I'm commenting on is how far overboard he has gone to prove a whole lot of SFW that isn't even correct.

He has dedicated his life to the forensics of the enunciation of a consonant.

The boy needs to go out and meet a girl, spend time with the family get pissed, whatever. Spending an entire weekend on this is a little goofy by even the geekiest standards.

I feel that the Shat reference was appropriate both times based on the posts I was quoting but I won't do it again.

 

[Michael]

The boy needs to go out and meet a girl, spend time with the family get pissed, whatever. Spending an entire weekend on this is a little goofy by even the geekiest standards.

Come on, you don't even know the guy. What you say here sounds pretty presumptuous.

 

[Carpe Occasio]

If Star Trek forums don't drive you to drink I don't know what will.