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FCC National Broadband Plan

Scott is bound and determined that everyone should be saddled with early technology and there should be no progression beyond that.
Totally untrue. I just don't think everyone needs broadband Internet access, and the government doesn't need to be spending my money to ensure that everyone out in the boonies gets cheap broadband access.

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Considering how backward my relatives in the boonies sound when they talk, I'd beg to differ.
 
People only use the Internet for shopping and MySpace. They can use dial-up.

How profound :rolleyes:
I see honesty isn't one of your strong points.

Let's just drop it, shall we?


Totally untrue. I just don't think everyone needs broadband Internet access, and the government doesn't need to be spending my money to ensure that everyone out in the boonies gets cheap broadband access.
Considering how backward my relatives in the boonies sound when they talk, I'd beg to differ.
:)

There's plenty of 'backwardness' on the Internet too, so I'm not sure it would be much help to them.

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Scott is bound and determined that everyone should be saddled with early technology and there should be no progression beyond that.
Totally untrue. I just don't think everyone needs broadband Internet access, and the government doesn't need to be spending my money to ensure that everyone out in the boonies gets cheap broadband access.

In the 1930s a lot of people didn't think everyone in the boonies needed electricity, either. But the New Deal's Rural Electrification Administration has been judged by history as a success, improving the productivity of farms, helping local economies, and providing jobs in the depression economy (sound familiar?).

Rural residents also pay taxes for things they can't use, like urban roads and mass transit. I would rather my tax money go to something like this that benefits many people rather than things like subsidizing corporate jets or paying for sports stadiums.

--Justin
 
Really? Do you feel the same way about telephone service? What about subsidies that keep dying airlines afloat? There are times when Government investment will actually reap a reward. Again, "If you build it, they will come". And in closing, you don't know all of the facts and as such you're making baseless arguments against this proposal. You parrot the same BS over and over:

People only use the Internet for shopping and MySpace. They can use dial-up.

How profound :rolleyes:
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Don't forget the technologies like VOIP and skype which are dealing major blows to the traditional telecos and which are made possible by broadband connectivity.

I maintain a VOIP service in Australia that costs me $15 a month and connect to over the net from Canada. It allows me to call home, and have people call me force the cost of a local call (now time or long distance charges).

A Lawyer I still do some work for uses skype to deal with his overseas clients.

Hell I can support his computers from the other side of the planet with remote access.

While some of this is possible on dialup (remote access is painful but usable), skype can over dialup (just) to make best use of them you need broadband.

There's also the benefit for businesses with the ability to implement telepresence to allow staff to work from home. Again something possible on dialup but not always practical.

Should also mention that accessing a lot of sites on the net is getting very painful because of the amount of multimedia connect that comes with them. Even sites for newspapers have shit that gets loaded from different places and can take an age to load via dialup.

I'm wondering if those who say people should just use dialup have actually tried to exist on dialup.
 
I recently loaded up dial up on my aging iMacDV Special Edition and good fuckin golly... even just loading my webmail took about the same amount of time it takes me to start brewing a cup of coffee, wait for half the pot fill, fill my cup, put my cream and suger in, take a test sip or two, open a package of cookies, walk back to my desk sit down...

And see "Time out error"

Dial up is teh $uckzors

I know they're saying "oh its for the low income folks" but its also just handy having a general broadband floating in the air that anyone can tap into without having to resorting to wardriving or paying for 3G wifi service or looking for a hotspot. What if I'm visiting someone away from my calling area? Or out of my network?

Lots of people nowadays NEED the internet and a reliable broadband connection for their JOBS! I'm a merchandiser, so I RELY on having a stable connection to do my call reports, upload pictures of my work, do online teleconferences, and pull down large PDFs of instructions, plus when I was on the road a lot last year visiting every store in the FRAKING STATE OF WISCONSIN, I thanked GOD everyday that no matter where I went at least the hotels I stayed in had free wifi service with decent speed or there was a McDonalds or Starbucks nearby so I could use their AT&T wifi connection. My company didn't give me any kind of allowance for internet access but it was required nonetheless. Lots of peopel work from home now, so this would open up more jobs for people, especially those who may be too disabled to work in a normal job setting (physical limitations or other health issues) that being able to do something online at their own home would be a blessing, even if its just selling things on eBay or teaching at an online university or selling things on a website
 
Scott is bound and determined that everyone should be saddled with early technology and there should be no progression beyond that.
Totally untrue. I just don't think everyone needs broadband Internet access, and the government doesn't need to be spending my money to ensure that everyone out in the boonies gets cheap broadband access.

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Do you not give one shit that North America's internet services are beginning to fall by leaps and bounds behind those found in other parts of the developed world?

How many fucking ways are you Americans going to shoot yourselves in the face (UHC, internet access, power grind, energy development, etc.) while the rest of the world moves forward because you're scared to death that Big Brother is gonna "steal your money"?

Have fun living in a backwards, uncompetitive shithole compared to Asia and Europe in twenty years, I'm sure you'll be blaming the liberals for it. :rolleyes:
 
I'm wondering if those who say people should just use dialup have actually tried to exist on dialup.
Of course not. If they did, they wouldn't feel that way.
I browsed the Internet for years using a dial-up modem. It wasn't much fun, but then again I didn't really need the Internet all that much.


Do you not give one shit that North America's internet services are beginning to fall by leaps and bounds behind those found in other parts of the developed world?
Not particularly. So many people wouldn't know what to do with broadband if they had it that I'm not obsessed with getting it into every home.

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I'm wondering if those who say people should just use dialup have actually tried to exist on dialup.
Of course not. If they did, they wouldn't feel that way.
I browsed the Internet for years using a dial-up modem. It wasn't much fun, but then again I didn't really need the Internet all that much.


Do you not give one shit that North America's internet services are beginning to fall by leaps and bounds behind those found in other parts of the developed world?
Not particularly. So many people wouldn't know what to do with broadband if they had it that I'm not obsessed with getting it into every home.

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I hate to tell you this, Scott, but you need to open your eyes and look at the 21st Century. High speed Internet has become a utility much like water, sewage, and electricity for much of the American populace. I'm certain you also believe party-line telephone service is quite sufficient for rural and remote people, but alas, your so-called arguments against this are lacking.
 
FordSVT,

The reason I express worry about this broadband plan is due to the fact that our government the past 8 years has been constantly eroding our civil rights. So needless to say when I see a potential for abuse, I speak up.
 
High speed Internet has become a utility much like water, sewage, and electricity for much of the American populace.
I don't believe this for one second, but that's beside the point, for those people already have broadband access. The people who lack it don't all seem to be missing it. I know many people who could easily pay for and receive broadband access and just don't bother.

High speed Internet access is about as essential as cable TV, which many people also have and love, but don't need.

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