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Gilligan really was lost!

I just got one of those 24 hour monster movie dvd packs, and half of em are the old gamera movies, so i'm kinda set for a while tho
 
Gilligan isn't Crichton, so the others have to take up the slack of survival, with Gilligan helping out, and as I said before, he sabatoges their efforts every time they're all on the verge of leaving.

Usually. Gilligan didn't always screw up; sometimes it was the folly of other characters on the island, or some odd quirk of the guest stars, or unforgiving nature, or whatever.

In the Filmation animated series The New Adventures of Gilligan, the formula was essentially reversed -- in most episodes, the rest of the castaways got caught up in some folly such as greed or infighting or whatever that put their rescue or their lives in danger, and Gilligan was the innocent one whose purity saved the others from themselves. I think there was at least one episode of the original series that was like that too.


A great ending for the show would be for them to realize that Gilligan is the one keeping them there, and devising a plan in secret to leave that does not involve him. They succeed at it, and Gilligan is left there when they are rescued/leave the island in a ship of their own making. Gilligan is left to fend for himself, learns how to do so (he has an advantage, since all of the structures he helped build are already built, so he won't be cold and wet when it rains!) Gilligan survives, and because he has to catch coconuts and fish, he grows and becomes more mature, although he becomes angry with every passing day at the betrayal of his 'friends' (who help out by periodically dropping off 'care packages.') Eventually, they arrange for him to get off of the island-or somebody takes pity on him and rescues him-and he returns to civillization, where he tearfully and angrily confronts each of them as to why they left without him. They tell him that they all had lives to live, and that they didn't want to spend all that time with an arrested development case stuck at the age of ten who treated the island as his own private kingdom with subjects to help him out of his messes. Gilligan realizes that they were right in leaving him there, eventually gets over it, goes back to school (vocational school for adults?) and gets a job driving a taxi, eventually befrending the owner of a diner, becoming BFF's, and being best man at the man's wedding. He does not see his former friends ever again, though-and the feeling is mutual.

Uhh... did you forget that it was a comedy? Geez, do you want to see Elmer Fudd skin, roast, and eat Bugs Bunny next?


Actually, Gilligan's Island was...RY'LEH!!!

All the people who 'left' the island were instead fed to the Old Ones.

Except for Don Rickles, who is in fact one of Nylathrotep's many aliases.

I've always believed the island was actually Captain Nemo's Mysterious Island a century later. That would certainly explain the six-foot-long spider.
 
Oddly enough, I prefer Gilligan's Island the way it is, without the nuBSG approach. :rommie:
 
The actual ending to Gilligan's Island revealed that the show took in our distant past.

150,000 years later, we see Don Rickles and a surfer duder walking around NYC noticing a magazine article that reveals Mary Ann was our "Mitochondrial Eve", then we see "Lost" playing on a t.v. set.
 
what we need is a darker style Gilligan's Island where they all have to REALLY fend for thier survival, and later we learn that Gilligan has been fucking up all the escape attempts for his own sinister reasons

In a real Gilligan's Island wouldn''t the rest have immediately killed and eaten the skipper?

After all he was big, meaty, and they hardly needed a charter ship captain anymore.

Then Gilligan and the Professor would've offed the Howell's leaving them with Ginger and Mary Ann all to themselves.
 
Gilligan isn't Crichton, so the others have to take up the slack of survival, with Gilligan helping out, and as I said before, he sabatoges their efforts every time they're all on the verge of leaving.

Usually. Gilligan didn't always screw up; sometimes it was the folly of other characters on the island, or some odd quirk of the guest stars, or unforgiving nature, or whatever.

In the Filmation animated series The New Adventures of Gilligan, the formula was essentially reversed -- in most episodes, the rest of the castaways got caught up in some folly such as greed or infighting or whatever that put their rescue or their lives in danger, and Gilligan was the innocent one whose purity saved the others from themselves. I think there was at least one episode of the original series that was like that too.


A great ending for the show would be for them to realize that Gilligan is the one keeping them there, and devising a plan in secret to leave that does not involve him. They succeed at it, and Gilligan is left there when they are rescued/leave the island in a ship of their own making. Gilligan is left to fend for himself, learns how to do so (he has an advantage, since all of the structures he helped build are already built, so he won't be cold and wet when it rains!) Gilligan survives, and because he has to catch coconuts and fish, he grows and becomes more mature, although he becomes angry with every passing day at the betrayal of his 'friends' (who help out by periodically dropping off 'care packages.') Eventually, they arrange for him to get off of the island-or somebody takes pity on him and rescues him-and he returns to civillization, where he tearfully and angrily confronts each of them as to why they left without him. They tell him that they all had lives to live, and that they didn't want to spend all that time with an arrested development case stuck at the age of ten who treated the island as his own private kingdom with subjects to help him out of his messes. Gilligan realizes that they were right in leaving him there, eventually gets over it, goes back to school (vocational school for adults?) and gets a job driving a taxi, eventually befrending the owner of a diner, becoming BFF's, and being best man at the man's wedding. He does not see his former friends ever again, though-and the feeling is mutual.

Uhh... did you forget that it was a comedy? Geez, do you want to see Elmer Fudd skin, roast, and eat Bugs Bunny next?

Dude, I don't care-it was, and really is, a shitty show. Bob Denver was better as Rufus Butterworth on The Good Guys-the comedy was sensilbly based in reality, and Rufus was a fully functioning adult caught up in comedic situations instead of a man-child stuck at 10 years of age. That show should have lasted longer but died due to low ratings-too bad Gilligan's Island couldn't end up the same way.

what we need is a darker style Gilligan's Island where they all have to REALLY fend for thier survival, and later we learn that Gilligan has been fucking up all the escape attempts for his own sinister reasons

In a real Gilligan's Island wouldn''t the rest have immediately killed and eaten the skipper?

After all he was big, meaty, and they hardly needed a charter ship captain anymore.

Then Gilligan and the Professor would've offed the Howell's leaving them with Ginger and Mary Ann all to themselves.

Gilligan is an immature man-child who is emotionally and mentally stuck at 10. None of the ladies would want him, except maybe as a pity date/pity screw. The Professor would get rid of him, and then have the two girls to himself.:lol:
 
You have to look at the whole cast. Gilligan was simply the most extreme example of the bunch; they were all eccentric, and prone to odd quirks that sometimes worked to scuttle the rescues. Just like with Maxwell Smart : its easy to see that he's a nincompoop, a little bit harder to see that, while functional, 99 and the Chief still transact in that insane world, and are part of its - pardon the expression-chaos. Or even Archie Bunker. We forget that almost all the other characters, while more reasonable-sounding, were caricatures like him.
 
Gilligan's Island was a great show-- I don't know where people get the idea that something has to be realistic to be good. It was Vaudeville and slapstick, and it was silly. But it was also about a group of very diverse people, the essence of certain types, forced to live and work together; while they constantly got on each other's nerves, they also genuinely liked each other and supported each other. And it had a great cast.

And then there's this interpretation. :D
 
Gilligan is an immature man-child who is emotionally and mentally stuck at 10. None of the ladies would want him, except maybe as a pity date/pity screw.

You don't know much about women, do you? They like innocents they can be maternal toward. There was definitely a very subtle vibe of attraction between Mary Ann and Gilligan, and Ginger often tried to seduce him -- she seemed intrigued by the idea of giving this virginal youth his sexual awakening -- but she was constantly stymied by either his cluelessness or his sheer terror at what she was offering.


You have to look at the whole cast. Gilligan was simply the most extreme example of the bunch; they were all eccentric, and prone to odd quirks that sometimes worked to scuttle the rescues. Just like with Maxwell Smart : its easy to see that he's a nincompoop, a little bit harder to see that, while functional, 99 and the Chief still transact in that insane world, and are part of its - pardon the expression-chaos. Or even Archie Bunker. We forget that almost all the other characters, while more reasonable-sounding, were caricatures like him.

Well, 99 was the ultra-competent character who anchored the wacky ones around her, like the Professor was for GI. But yes, the castaways all had their eccentricities. Gilligan was the klutz and the naif, but he was also the innocent and the most all-around nice, decent person on the island. The Skipper was a mediocre leader with an overinflated sense of his own ability -- would he have hired Gilligan as a first mate if he were truly competent himself? -- and had serious anger-management issues. But he was basically a kind and avuncular figure whose authority, however tenuously justified, helped keep the group together. Mr. Howell was greedy, corrupt, scheming, manipulative, lazy, lecherous, cowardly -- name any negative stereotype about the filthy rich and it probably applies. But in the final analysis, he did love his wife, and he was able to come together with the group and sacrifice on their behalf, however reluctantly, when it was needed. Mrs. Howell was a flighty, scatterbrained, self-absorbed doyenne, a hothouse flower who had little comprehension of the world beyond the narrow concerns of a society matron and obsessed over what the proper attire was for a rescue or a headhunter raid. But she also functioned as a force for civilization within the group, her regal presence imposing an air of propriety and civility that helped keep their little community together. Ginger was vain, man-hungry, and in her own way just as devious and manipulative as Mr. Howell, sometimes colluding with him in various self-serving schemes; but she was also probably the smartest, canniest person on the island after the Professor. Although she started out as a ditzy, infantilized Marilyn Monroe clone, she quickly grew into a far more self-assured, strong woman, one whose sexuality was a weapon she wielded for her own ends. The Professor was detached, unemotional, isolated in his ivory tower, and as sexually clueless as Gilligan (he was Ginger's other preferred target for attempted seduction), but he was the single most important factor in the group's survival and comfort.

As for Mary Ann, I can't really think of any exaggerated comic flaws for her. She was just a wholesome, innocent farm girl, not afraid of hard work, bearing no animosity toward any of the others, and having a bit of a schoolgirl crush on Gilligan. She did sometimes clash with Ginger and the others, though, in particular being kind of jealous of Ginger's glamour and allure (even though Mary Ann was clearly far hotter than Ginger).


Gilligan's Island was a great show-- I don't know where people get the idea that something has to be realistic to be good. It was Vaudeville and slapstick, and it was silly. But it was also about a group of very diverse people, the essence of certain types, forced to live and work together; while they constantly got on each other's nerves, they also genuinely liked each other and supported each other.

Exactly. That meant a lot to me, growing up. I was a shy and eccentric kid and I was heavily bullied, a social outcast. But on the show, no matter how much the other characters yelled at Gilligan and criticized him, when the chips were down they all rallied behind him and took care of him and made it clear that they loved him. And that was very moving to me, that sense of acceptance and belonging.
 
Well put as always, Christopher. But I will add a common failing to the list : They one and all tended to put their trust in the visitors to get them off. A lot of times, even leaving Gilligan to watch them in the night might have been a good idea. And I will still argue that, ultra-competent though she was, 99 was still decidedly an eccentric by our standards, though fitting right into that world. There were times when she didn't tell Max things 'because he didn't ask', which, especially with Max, can be a problem.
 
I read an article once that posited the idea that "Gilligan's Island" was, in fact, Hell. Each of the castaways was a sinner trapped there, representing one (or more) of the Seven Deadly Sins. The Skipper was Gluttony and Anger. Mr. Howell was Greed. Mrs. Howell was Sloth. The Professor was Pride. Ginger (most obviously) was Lust and Mary-Ann (who often coveted Ginger's beauty and success) was Envy.

Gilligan was, himself, Satan, who perpetually kept the others stranded through purposeful antics while disguising himself as a friend in their midst and secretly delighting at their misfortune. His true nature was symbolized by the wearing of the RED shirt.

Interesting to watch it sometimes with these thoughts in mind.
 
^^ I Posted a link to that in my previous Post (#28).

But on the show, no matter how much the other characters yelled at Gilligan and criticized him, when the chips were down they all rallied behind him and took care of him and made it clear that they loved him. And that was very moving to me, that sense of acceptance and belonging.
Yup. I love that sort of thing.

Okay, I give up, and bow to the superior knowledge of you guys. I accept that Gilligan's Island isn't that bad.:)
Join the ranks of the Gilligan fans. :D
 
What's scary is, I can cite from memory all the words to 'Neither A Borrower Nor A Lender Be' from GI's Musical Hamlet.
 
What's scary is, I can cite from memory all the words to 'Neither A Borrower Nor A Lender Be' from GI's Musical Hamlet.


That episode was my introduction to Shakespeare as a child.

"Neither a Borrower nor a Lender Be!
Do not forget! STAY out of Debt!
Think twice and take this good advice from me!
Guard that old solvency! There's just one other thing
You ought to do! To thine own self be TRUE!"


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What's scary is, I can cite from memory all the words to 'Neither A Borrower Nor A Lender Be' from GI's Musical Hamlet.


That episode was my introduction to Shakespeare as a child.

"Neither a Borrower nor a Lender Be!
Do not forget! STAY out of Debt!
Think twice and take this good advice from me!
Guard that old solvency! There's just one other thing
You ought to do! To thine own self be TRUE!"

That's true for a lot of people. But then, how many of us were introduced to Wagnerian opera by Bugs Bunny?
 
What's scary is, I can cite from memory all the words to 'Neither A Borrower Nor A Lender Be' from GI's Musical Hamlet.


That episode was my introduction to Shakespeare as a child.

"Neither a Borrower nor a Lender Be!
Do not forget! STAY out of Debt!
Think twice and take this good advice from me!
Guard that old solvency! There's just one other thing
You ought to do! To thine own self be TRUE!"

That's true for a lot of people. But then, how many of us were introduced to Wagnerian opera by Bugs Bunny?

"Kill the WABBIT!! KILL THE WABBIT"
 
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