Canon Wars : Chapter XI
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Well since the whole film is a new timeline to a massive extent canon is irrelevant.
I think it's great they're basing it on canon past, but I hope they make themselves a whole new future out of it incorporating existing canon in new exciting ways. I will be extremely disapointed if there is a reset button at the end, but I feel that TPTB aren't that effing stupid.
Time to blow this bitch up!
Time to blow this bitch up!
Do we get to use nukes 
Do we get to use nukes
Nah, we'll have to use the Canon Cannon. FIRE!
Do we get to use nukes
Yeap. Just make sure you drop them from orbit.
It's the only way
That sounds like a challenge to me.
All kidding aside, speaking as someone who sees himself in the "canon doesn't matter (all that much)" camp, I think this sounds like very good news. (Although, listening closely to what these guys have said over the last months would reveal that this isn't news at all.
) However, I hope this brings some people to enjoy the movie more open-minded; without them having to worry about established Trek canon. I'm afraid though, that people who expect a canon explanation for everything (even the look of the ship etc.) will still be disappointed.
[unenthusiasticly]Down with canon. Canon sucks.[/unenthusiasticly]
(Although, listening closely to what these guys have said over the last months would reveal that this isn't news at all.
Exactly. Orci, Abrams and Kurtzman have said similar things in the past.
Right once again.
This movie could be pendantic in its execution of the Trek canon, even with the designs, costumes, and sets of TOS, and the canonistas would still be disappointed.
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We have a winner.Personally, I HATE the reset button at the end of ANY movie or show. Like Stargate: Continuum, wtf?!? It doesn't advance the story, the characters, nothing... just 2 hours I wasted and can't travel back in time to fix.
New Trek canon, HERE I COME! Helmsman, lay in a course for STXI, maximum warp.
I agree. It really doesn't matter how good the rest of the movie is if at the end none of it ever happened. I hate oh-henry endings.
Also, given the torn and tattered canon that exists after Voyager and Enterprise, I don't see how it matters if the movie invalidates more canon - IMHO the only thing that is canon is the stuff that appears on screen, and, painfully sometimes, inversely, anything that appears on screen is canon. Yes, even Final Frontier. Someone just pasted the wrong deck numbers on, as a joke, or something...
But if such a thing as canon exists for something as self-contradictory as Star Trek, then the canon is, that if it is, then it is canon. So this new movie is canon, and so is everything in it, and while that may muck up the time-lines we draw on our fan-sites, we have to accept it.
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Pretty much.
I'm hoping for a good Star Trek movie, first and foremost. If all (or at least most) of the new little bits fit with the old and established canon -- and they've been saying all along that they've put a lot of effort into doing that very thing -- then that's just icing on the cake.
Might there be a few surprises about just how they accomplish it all? I certainly hope so.
Dude, I so have a Photonic Canon Cannon, and I WILL use it.
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