LOL, then I can assume that you don't post at StarTrek.com.Middleman, you didn't really offend me. It takes a lot to offend me, which is why I still post here.
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Definitely. I used to post there, but it got ridiculous quickly.
That any non-canon pairing or situation is the product of someone's imagination. Archer/T'Pol is no more "over-active" than Malcolm/Hoshi, or HEA Trip/T'Pol, or any other.
Aye, there's the rub. If we all were more accepting of differing points of view, and avoided attaching negative connotations to opinions with which we disagree, the world would turn a little more smoothly.
You weren't here back then. It was a dark time of great intolerance.
The fact that you apologized when you said your initial "over-active imagination" statement was a signal that you knew you might be stepping on some toes....In conclusion, my saying someone has an overactive imagination in not necessarily a bad thing. After all, the only reason we have Star Trek is because of some very overactive imaginations.
All we ask is that you all make an effort to be accepting of opinions that differ from your own, rather than judgmental. No one's opinion is right or wrong, better or worse, than anyone else's. It is simply their opinion.
I think as you get to know me better, you will notice I use some strong words. I don't do that to step on toes or to get a reaction, it's just part of my "style" which is very "New York City" (we New Yorkers have never been good at watching our P's and Q's). You will also notice that I am quick to complement and quicker to clarify myself if I'm being misunderstood. Also, I'm rarely rude to someone, unless I'm treated that way of course. If you were here with me as I write this, you would know there was no malice intended.
I really didn't apologize (at least I think I didn't) as much as I was just explaining myself. I still don't feel that using the term "overactive imagination" should offend anyone.
One other point on the Trip & T'Pol subject: It was mentioned that the TnT relationship is over thanks to TATV and that's canon. True enough; and the same can be said for Trip's death. I also know that the books are not considered canon. However, TBTP (in this case Pocketbooks which is ultimatly owned by CBS = the true keepers of the canon) realized very quickly that if they were ever going to sell any books based on Enterprise, they had to resurrect Trip (The Good That Men Do) and they had to re-establish Trip & T'Pol's romance (Kobayashi Maru). Even the short story "A Less Perfect Union" in the book STAR TREK: MYRIAD UNIVERSES: Infinity's Prisim had Trip & T'Pol married. Let's face it, this relationship was very popular with the fans and it sells. And in the end, selling is what Star Trek is all about.
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This is the post I was referring to:
Thank you, Middleman, for your clarification. Much appreciated.You know, I don't know exactly what the "shipper wars" were, nor do I care to find out.
The only thing I can say is this:
"Trip & T'Pol" = Canon
"Archer & T'Pol" = Over active imagination
Please accept my apologies if this posting starts another "shipper war", but it was something I just had to say.
Now I get you, that's just the way I "talk".This is the post I was referring to:
Thank you, Middleman, for your clarification. Much appreciated.You know, I don't know exactly what the "shipper wars" were, nor do I care to find out.
The only thing I can say is this:
"Trip & T'Pol" = Canon
"Archer & T'Pol" = Over active imagination
Please accept my apologies if this posting starts another "shipper war", but it was something I just had to say.
You know, I think the "shipper wars" were greatly exaggerated. I think the majority of the "other side" were just fine and those that weren't I ignored. I assume they did the same. Then again, I think dissenting opinions is *why* I want to post here. If I wanted to read just my opinion, I'd blog about Star Trek: Enterprise. Say .....
Saying there were shipper wars is like assuming there's a "TATV Die Brigade" or a "Connor Devotee Fan Club." Wait a second ....
Saying there were shipper wars is like assuming there's a "TATV Die Brigade" or a "Connor Devotee Fan Club." Wait a second ....
Maybe you hold ho's?
Maybe then you prune well. (I'm sorry, I have a ton of tool puns, and am trying to stay away from the obvious ones.)
I got some T'Pol/Archer Vibe from the pilot episode already. Even though there was this lame shower scene with T'Pol and Trip (if I remember correctly). But T/A had a different kind of chemistry, which worked better, at least from my point of view.
I have only seen handful of ENT episodes and once I heard about T'Pol/Trip thing going on, I was surprised.
I have only seen handful of ENT episodes and once I heard about T'Pol/Trip thing going on, I was surprised.
It was not a shower scene, it was decon, and it was not lame, it was fine art. The camera work was flawless (closeups baby, especially the 'ear thing,' gotta love the ear thing).
You're talking about "Broken Bow", right? Now, I can definitely see the vibe in "knocking you on your ass" moment, but somehow I don't see Archer as a S&M kind of guy. T'Pol? Sure. That mean bitchy season one T'Pol was a natural born dominatrix.
[note: here there be no sarcasm! Sarcasm = evil, humor = friendship, plus I actually meant what I said.]
You are right, the Decon scene was fantastic. I know many complained about it, but I thought it was very well done. Also, from my POV, the Decon scene was my first indication that B&B were going to pair the two of them eventually. It was a "no brainer" IMO, the chemistry was just staring at you right in the face. The shower scene from season 3 was actually one of the best filmed "romance" scenes I've seen on (done for) TV in a long time.
OK, don't you think the dominatrix thing is stretching it just a bit?
In my eyes, Archer & T'Pol had all the chemestry of oil and water. It might be good for salad, but that's about it.
I've been told I'm a good pruner...or were they calling me a prune....I can't remember which.
Tachyon, I also felt the decon scene was gag-worthy. So, you're not alone.
That's okay. These green orbs think that Trip/T'Pol was the worst couple with the worst chemistry in any Star Trek episode (all incarnations) and possibly any television show ever shown. Ever. Strong words, yes. But true to me.
Maybe we can move along?
That's okay. These green orbs think that Trip/T'Pol was the worst couple with the worst chemistry in any Star Trek episode (all incarnations) and possibly any television show ever shown. Ever. Strong words, yes. But true to me.
Maybe we can move along?
Different opinions make the world go around. Everyone takes away something different from a book, movie, TV show....
It's only entertainment.
Easy Commie, deep breaths (and grab a paper bag just to be safe)
Mach5, we've been over this "ridicule the poster's opinion, then claim innocence" routine. You doth protest too much, and I don't buy it. And now another poster has riffed off your mocking. I am concerned. You've been asked, more than once, to stop. This is your last friendly. Please. STOP.You're talking about "Broken Bow", right? Now, I can definitely see the vibe in "knocking you on your ass" moment, but somehow I don't see Archer as a S&M kind of guy. T'Pol? Sure. That mean bitchy season one T'Pol was a natural born dominatrix.
[note: here there be no sarcasm! Sarcasm = evil, humor = friendship, plus I actually meant what I said.]
As for these gems...
Isn't it great that the shipper wars are far behind us?
For the sake of civil discussion, I heartily suggest you consider reviewing the fine document The Mannerly Art of Disagreement, recommended in the TrekBBS Rules, before a few of you burn out some brain circuits in your continued efforts to come up with ever more hyperbolic superlatives to describe the utter worthlessness of the pairing that you do not support.
Or there's always IDIC.
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