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Are persons from the Isle of Man, the Isle of Wight, the Hebrides, the Orkney Islands, the Shetland Islands, the Scilly Isles, or the Channel Islands considered British? The archipelago is known as the British Isles, but, for some reason, the term British seem to only apply to persons from the largest island in the group. Is this merely the strangeness of Irish nationalism damaging the rationality of the lexicon?

Actually, the term 'British Isles' isn't popularlarly or commonly used in Ireland, nor does it make any geographical sense. Nothing to do with the 'strangeness' of Irish nationalism, it's a simple fact that Ireland isn't British. Even Northern Ireland, while part of the UK, isn't part of Great Britain - the United Kingdom is of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Ergo, even NI isn't technically British, even if most of its citizens choose to have British nationality (which they're perfectly entitled to do, AFAIC).

All islands of the archipelago are British by technicality. Britain was not until recently a short form of Great Britain, but the collective name of the islands. They were originally (so far as known) named this (Brettaniai) by the Greek traveler Pythieas in 320 BCE, and the name carried forward through Roman times (Brittannia, later Britannia), and through several variants in French and English until its present (rather Latinesque) form. The name is believed to originate with a Celtic word something along the lines of Pretani (the indigenous Celts name for the people of the British Isles).

The tradition of naming the island containing England, Scotland, and Wales Great Britain is relatively recent, and itself only denotes that the island is the largest of the island group. The ancient (as far back as Roman times) names of the major islands were Albion (Great Britain) and Hibernia (Ireland).


And as has been pointed out elsewhere, many people in Scotland, Wales and the Isle of Man don't regard themselves as British. But I really don't want to hijack the thread any further. Suffice it to say, that while regarding myself as Irish, I have no disdain or dislike for English, Scottish, or Welsh people or for Northern Unionists. Generalisations such as the ones you've made aren't helpful.

The two statements weren't directly connected. My comment regarding Irish nationalism related just to the words, and my observation on human conflict was inspired by another poster's mention of the emnity between some of the peoples of the two islands (but, again, wasn't specifically about the situation in the British Isles).[/quote]

Does it really matter and should it be in this thread?

May I say, I'm sorry for causing this tangent to occur, I had a bee in my bonniet which I can't actually remember the reason for, so, lets get this back on topic as I doubt anyone's that interested in how the British have been complete c***s towards pretty much everyone over the course of the centuries and the dislike which has occured.

Can we limit discussion in the casting thread to casting suggestions, please? The thread is huge enough without off-topic digressions.

Yeah, what he said :bolian:
 
wow....too many pages to read through :boggle: tho i skimmed several.

i've seen renders of Joe Flanigan as Mackenzie Calhoun and i totally agree.

one person i've mentally had cast for awhile - Charlize Theron as SCE's Domenica Corsi. she's got the looks, the presence, and i know she could pull off the role. (not that we'd ever get an SCE movie but i can dream right?? :P)
 
Theron isn't remotely who I had in mind, but I bet she could pull the role off..............
 
^ I agree. Theron has the right kind of Nordic beauty and also the height (5'10") and the force of personality (she really is a superb actor of great intelligence and nuance).
 
^Personally I've envisaged Theron as my choice for Christine Vale in Titan.

As for some of my other ideas:

T'Lana (Resistance & Before Dishonour): either Natalie Portman or Keira Knightley

Jasminder Choudhury (Greater Than The Sum & Destiny Trilogy): for some wierd reason I've always imagined her looking like Konnie Huq from Blue Peter! You might think that's a bit wierd but that's my opinion.

I don't know about anyone else here, but do you ever cast yourself into the novels, because sometimes I will cast myself as an extra who if he's lucky has a few lines to say and has a surname, but normally will just refer to them by their rank or race, and will just do something like turn and nod or just stand around in the background.
 
Vale has consistently been described as petite, so I'm not sure casting a 5'10" woman in the part works.... :lol:
 
I've been trying to come up with someone who'd play Mackenzie Calhoun properly for years, and it just now came to me - Robert Downey Jr. would be absolutely 100% perfect.

I still can't come up with anyone I like for Cwan though.
 
I've been trying to come up with someone who'd play Mackenzie Calhoun properly for years, and it just now came to me - Robert Downey Jr. would be absolutely 100% perfect.

I still can't come up with anyone I like for Cwan though.

From the first day I read New Frontier Book I in 1997, I always pictured Si Cwan as being played by (an admittedly younger) Andreas Katsulas of Babylon 5 fame.

I also pictured Lodec, the Danteri leader, as being played by Peter Jurasik, who played Londo on B5, and I also always pictured Captain Calhoun as looking like a younger version of Bruce Boxleitner.
 
I've been trying to come up with someone who'd play Mackenzie Calhoun properly for years, and it just now came to me - Robert Downey Jr. would be absolutely 100% perfect.

I still can't come up with anyone I like for Cwan though.
Hmmm, that's one I hadn't thought of before. And TBH I have no idea what to think of it.
 
I may have simply missed it if it's been mentioned, but in the Titan series...who would you guys cast to play Zurin Dakal?
 
I've been trying to come up with someone who'd play Mackenzie Calhoun properly for years, and it just now came to me - Robert Downey Jr. would be absolutely 100% perfect.

Nope. I love Downey, but no. I'm pretty sure you're basing that thought on Tony Stark, right? Snarkyness aside, ultimately, there's only the barest superficial resemblance between Stark and Calhoun. Now, could Downey act the part? Hell yes. But he's still all wrong for the role.

arnold vosloo [as Si Cwan]

Almost perfect. He'd get my vote for the role.
 
I've been trying to come up with someone who'd play Mackenzie Calhoun properly for years, and it just now came to me - Robert Downey Jr. would be absolutely 100% perfect.

Nope. I love Downey, but no. I'm pretty sure you're basing that thought on Tony Stark, right? Snarkyness aside, ultimately, there's only the barest superficial resemblance between Stark and Calhoun. Now, could Downey act the part? Hell yes. But he's still all wrong for the role.

I was trying to come up with someone that could be flippant without being petty, and keep an aura of barely restrained violence around him constantly without being creepy or off-putting. I can't think of any other actor that could do that right. I'd thought of Nathan Fillion earlier, but Mal is too self-conscious and Fillion undercuts himself too often; perfect for that role, but not for Calhoun, who'd need to be more forceful. That wuss from Stargate: Atlantis would be terrible and I can't believe anyone ever suggested him. I've never seen Mel Gibson being right either, for whatever reason, though I know that's PAD's choice. I still think RDJ is the best choice I've come up with.

It wasn't because I think Calhoun is anything like Stark. It's because RDJ could handle the character without making him a joke or an ass.
 
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