Super Bowl Commercial on YouTube

[shapeshifter]

Woo Hoo!

YIPEE!

YIPPEE-I-A, MINI-SIRLOIN BURGERS! YIPPEE-I-A, MINI-SIRLOIN BURGERS!

Sorry but you reminded me, those things are delicious!

On the drinking, it's nothing new. Bones and Scotty both were always looking for an excuse to crack a seal, why should their early days have been any different..., because in this Utopia young people would have so much to do they wouldn't need alcohol?

The writers could be trying to paint a picture of boredom in Paradise. When every need is meet for you what's left to do but get stinking drunk?

Huh, you know? That's something I never thought of about their time before, how it really could be very boring and, I thank the writers for giving me something new to think about. Kirk to Saavik, ST 2 TWOK.

 

[SalvorHardin]

Furthermore, nothing says a "rebel" like a flask of booze in a shuttle. Badass, man.

10 to 1 it was offered to him by Bones.

Maybe it wasn't alcohol in the flask.

I bet he has prune juice in there. A warriors drink

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I can only assume people are taking offense to the usage of "man". "Why are you talking to me.." is a clearly reasonable thing for anytime period, so it must be "man".

"My god man..." Doesn't anyone watch Star Trek?! If they did, they'd realize "man" already exists in the future lexicon of Trek.

It's the *way* Kirk says 'man'. He says it like one of us would say 'dude'. Not the way McCoy says it.

 

[shapeshifter]

Man, whatever.

Hey, man, no disrespect intended; I said that to make a point.

Look at how old that saying is, (40 years?) and it is still used quite a bit today. It doesn't come up much on message boards but think about how often you may use it yourself. Even if you yourself do not, you must hear it used on occasion, especially by young people. I do.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

It's the *way* Kirk says 'man'. He says it like one of us would say 'dude'. Not the way McCoy says it.

Whatever, man. There's just no problem there.

 

[M'Sharak]

Man, whatever.

Hey, man, no disrespect intended; I said that to make a point.

Look at how old that saying is, (40 years?) ...

Much, much older than that. The beatniks had it before the hippies and the beboppers and jazz cats before that. You could probably keep following it farther and farther back until you got to Shakespeare's time and find it wasn't new then, either.

Hamlet, Act II, Scene 2 (excerpted):

LORD POLONIUS

My lord, I will use them according to their desert.
​

HAMLET

God's bodykins, man, much better: use every man
after his desert, and who should 'scape whipping?
Use them after your own honour and dignity: the less
they deserve, the more merit is in your bounty.
Take them in.
​

LORD POLONIUS

Come, sirs.​

If Pine's Kirk -- still half-inebriated, freshly ass-kicked in a bar fight, and now enduring a lecture from a (supposed father-figure) Starfleet captain -- says the line with a dose of surly attitude, I don't really see the problem. That's about what you'd expect him to sound like in that position.

 

[Longinus]

It's the *way* Kirk says 'man'. He says it like one of us would say 'dude'. Not the way McCoy says it.

This is what I mean.

 

[Cheapjack]

There seemed to be a lot of 'sound and fury' in this trailer. I didn't like it as much.

Is it possible that you could have TOO MUCH action in something?

I would like some meat to go with my potatoes please! You know, the dreaded 'M' and 'S.C.' words !?

 

[Irishman]

I don't recall any water or foliage on Coruscant. Actually that was kind of the point of the place; the entire planet had been overrun by skyscrapers.

I guess any time some people see a cluster of tall buildings, they think "Star Wars."

The trailer looks like it's doing what it's supposed to; trying to grab the attention of NON-fans since the existing base can't pay for the big-budget Trek they've been pining for. We'll find out if it works in May.

Yeah, I feel the same way. And it wasn't Star Wars that did the future city thing first anyway.

Even The Fifth Element predated it. And did the scenery just as well. But you don't hear anyone screaming "they ripped off The Fifth Element!!"

Probably because SW is on their mental radar, and not these other films.

 

[ST-One]

"Why are you talking to me, man ?" was cringeworthy. It was not only what he said, but how he said it.

Actually, it was just fine.

Better than "fine." Pine delivered that line more naturally than about 95% of prior Trek actors would have been able to. That gets my vote.

Yeah.
Also when he screams 'Do it! Do it' it sounds ... real. Not as stilted and staged and read-of-the-page as the Captains of Trek sounded so often before.

 

[ST-One]

I don't recall any water or foliage on Coruscant. Actually that was kind of the point of the place; the entire planet had been overrun by skyscrapers.

I guess any time some people see a cluster of tall buildings, they think "Star Wars."

The trailer looks like it's doing what it's supposed to; trying to grab the attention of NON-fans since the existing base can't pay for the big-budget Trek they've been pining for. We'll find out if it works in May.

Yeah, I feel the same way. And it wasn't Star Wars that did the future city thing first anyway.

Even The Fifth Element predated it. And did the scenery just as well. But you don't hear anyone screaming "they ripped off The Fifth Element!!"

Probably because SW is on their mental radar, and not these other films.

Before that there was 'Blade Runner'.

 

[SalvorHardin]

I don't recall any water or foliage on Coruscant. Actually that was kind of the point of the place; the entire planet had been overrun by skyscrapers.

I guess any time some people see a cluster of tall buildings, they think "Star Wars."

The trailer looks like it's doing what it's supposed to; trying to grab the attention of NON-fans since the existing base can't pay for the big-budget Trek they've been pining for. We'll find out if it works in May.

Yeah, I feel the same way. And it wasn't Star Wars that did the future city thing first anyway.

Even The Fifth Element predated it. And did the scenery just as well. But you don't hear anyone screaming "they ripped off The Fifth Element!!"

Probably because SW is on their mental radar, and not these other films.

Before that there was 'Blade Runner'.

Personally, every time I see such cities I remember Trantor from Asimov's Foundation books.

 

[M'Sharak]

Yeah, I feel the same way. And it wasn't Star Wars that did the future city thing first anyway.

Even The Fifth Element predated it. And did the scenery just as well. But you don't hear anyone screaming "they ripped off The Fifth Element!!"

Probably because SW is on their mental radar, and not these other films.

Before that there was 'Blade Runner'.

Personally, every time I see such cities I remember Trantor from Asimov's Foundation books.

Trantor is the first one I think of, too, whenever world-cities come up, but I did not get any such impression from the shuttlecraft shot in the Super Bowl spot. The tall buildings are not clustered just in the Financial District any more (for that matter, the Financial District probably isn't even the financial district any more) but there are plenty of familiar landmarks which tell you it's clearly San Francisco, and the stretches of open water and the Golden Gate Bridge in the foreground rule out its being anything like a Coruscant or Trantor.

There seemed to be a lot of 'sound and fury' in this trailer. I didn't like it as much.

Is it possible that you could have TOO MUCH action in something?

I would like some meat to go with my potatoes please! You know, the dreaded 'M' and 'S.C.' words !?

It wasn't a trailer; it was a thirty-second television spot, specifically intended for airing during the second quarter of the Super Bowl, and targeted at the audience potatoing there on their couches in front of the Tube with pizza, chips and beer. I don't know what your "dreaded 'M' and 'S.C.' words" are, but if you expected anything very different from what we got, I'd venture to suggest that such expectations may not have been entirely realistic.

 

[JuanBolio]

They all ripped off Metropolis.

 

[Cheapjack]

Before that there was 'Blade Runner'.

Personally, every time I see such cities I remember Trantor from Asimov's Foundation books.

Trantor is the first one I think of, too, whenever world-cities come up, but I did not get any such impression from the shuttlecraft shot in the Super Bowl spot. The tall buildings are not clustered just in the Financial District any more (for that matter, the Financial District probably isn't even the financial district any more) but there are plenty of familiar landmarks which tell you it's clearly San Francisco, and the stretches of open water and the Golden Gate Bridge in the foreground rule out its being anything like a Coruscant or Trantor.

There seemed to be a lot of 'sound and fury' in this trailer. I didn't like it as much.

Is it possible that you could have TOO MUCH action in something?

I would like some meat to go with my potatoes please! You know, the dreaded 'M' and 'S.C.' words !?

It wasn't a trailer; it was a thirty-second television spot, specifically intended for airing during the second quarter of the Super Bowl, and targeted at the audience potatoing there on their couches in front of the Tube with pizza, chips and beer. I don't know what your "dreaded 'M' and 'S.C.' words" are, but if you expected anything very different from what we got, I'd venture to suggest that such expectations may not have been entirely realistic.

Without wanting to be accused of 'B', I'm sure we could have got a LITTLE 'm' and 'SC' in, even in 30 seconds

Every ST to date has had some.

 

[SalvorHardin]

Every ST to date has had some.

No ST ad to date had been aimed to air for the sports fan, Super Bowl crowd.
That crowd is all about potatoes during this event, action and noise.

The ad was perfect for the event and if online polls can be any sort of reliable source of information, it succeeded.

 

[Star Treks]

Man, whatever.

Hey, man, no disrespect intended; I said that to make a point.

Look at how old that saying is, (40 years?) ...

Much, much older than that. The beatniks had it before the hippies and the beboppers and jazz cats before that. You could probably keep following it farther and farther back until you got to Shakespeare's time and find it wasn't new then, either.

Hamlet, Act II, Scene 2 (excerpted):

LORD POLONIUS

My lord, I will use them according to their desert.
​

HAMLET

God's bodykins, man, much better: use every man
after his desert, and who should 'scape whipping?
Use them after your own honour and dignity: the less
they deserve, the more merit is in your bounty.
Take them in.
​

LORD POLONIUS

Come, sirs.
​

If Pine's Kirk -- still half-inebriated, freshly ass-kicked in a bar fight, and now enduring a lecture from a (supposed father-figure) Starfleet captain -- says the line with a dose of surly attitude, I don't really see the problem. That's about what you'd expect him to sound like in that position.

I want to give a good hearty golf clap for going all the way back to Shakespeare.

I, too, have no problem with the line - not that I want the movie to sound like Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, but I find it personally reasonable that the phrase could still be used in the future, especially by someone who is still closer to civillian than captain.

 

[DaveyNY]

Perhaps...

Once seen in full perspective, the snippet given will appear much more worthy of the story as a whole!

And as for the Finnegan Thing...

If Kirk, at the time of the harassment's, was a Cadet and Finnegan was an Upper-Classman, there was no way in Hell Kirk could have done anything at all except put up with it. (Been There... Done That... Not Fun, but Payback is a Bitch!)

That's why He so relished the chance to get even during the "Shore Leave" episode.