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The SCOTUS hands Pr0n lovers a huge victory

here is a question though, why do you want to defend it?

Defend what?

That article focuses on the effect mass produced porn may have on single men who use it for masturbatory purposes, using massive amounts of hyperbole, opinion and assumption along the way. I wish to defend pornography from such ill thought out and badly misinformed attacks certainly.

There are also many things wrong with the porn industry itself, a few of which are fairly outlined in that article, but it draws on such large amounts of unsubstantiated opinion and assumptions about what constitutes a healthy attitude towards sex it's hard to take it seriously as a whole.

I have no interest in defending the porn industry from legitimate criticism, but if that article comes anywhere near to summing up your thoughts on pornography then you can scarcely have given it more than a few minutes of rational thought.
 
Honestly, I just googled it and linked it, I didn't even read it all the way through, I mean defend pornography, not the industry...
 
I just want to know why you think it is wrong, I can't defend it unless you give me your reasons for criticising it.
 
The true mark is to defend the right of others to do something you don't agree with personally. Otherwise, you are just calling for forcing people to comply to what you think, right or wrong.
 
oh man, I don't want to go through all of it again, I just debated it to death last week.

But basically in a few words: perversion, objectification of women, disruption of many marriage relationships, potential for very harmful addictions. Misconceptions on what is a healthy sexual relationship, etc.

And really the defense I got on it was basically, hey I can do it if I want and no it isn't bad and none of those things are true...
 
oh man, I don't want to go through all of it again, I just debated it to death last week.

But basically in a few words: perversion, objectification of women, disruption of many marriage relationships, potential for very harmful addictions. Misconceptions on what is a healthy sexual relationship, etc.

And really the defense I got on it was basically, hey I can do it if I want and no it isn't bad and none of those things are true...

Are you talking about porn or Religion? Because that list of negatives could be tagged to both.
 
oh man, I don't want to go through all of it again, I just debated it to death last week.

But basically in a few words: perversion, objectification of women, disruption of many marriage relationships, potential for very harmful addictions. Misconceptions on what is a healthy sexual relationship, etc.

And really the defense I got on it was basically, hey I can do it if I want and no it isn't bad and none of those things are true...

It's true that those things can occur, but none of those things are a criticism of porn itself, just of the kinds of porn and activities you don't like.

Well, except perversion, that's a subjective moral standard that has no real meaning in it's own right.

2 married consenting adults watching a homemade video of two other adults for mutual enjoyment, freely disseminated where no money has exchanged hands, no objectification has taken place and no mass production has taken place is also porn.

What's wrong with that, other than the aforementioned "perversion"?
 
oh man, I don't want to go through all of it again, I just debated it to death last week.

But basically in a few words: perversion, objectification of women, disruption of many marriage relationships, potential for very harmful addictions. Misconceptions on what is a healthy sexual relationship, etc.

And really the defense I got on it was basically, hey I can do it if I want and no it isn't bad and none of those things are true...

Are you talking about porn or Religion? Because that list of negatives could be tagged to both.

you are talking about a perversion of religion. Pornography is a perversion
 
Right, that's all I needed to know, it's wrong because the bible says it is regardless of whether it harms anyone or not.

No logical thought required.
 
oh man, I don't want to go through all of it again, I just debated it to death last week.

But basically in a few words: perversion, objectification of women, disruption of many marriage relationships, potential for very harmful addictions. Misconceptions on what is a healthy sexual relationship, etc.

And really the defense I got on it was basically, hey I can do it if I want and no it isn't bad and none of those things are true...

Are you talking about porn or Religion? Because that list of negatives could be tagged to both.

you are talking about a perversion of religion. Pornography is a perversion

How many millions of dollars has the church paid out for Priests abuses? How about all those "mega church" leaders who get caught up in scandal? What about the women who have suffered under Islam?
How about the children who suffered under Mormonism?


Every religion suffers from the same sickness, they are just to high on their own moral horses to admit it, and divert their attention to attacking others in the name of "moral right" and saving them from evil...
 
maybe you are not thinking through it logically. Many people say "oh this doesn't hurt anyone" but they are quite mistaken.

Actually, correct me if I am wrong, but the Bible doesn't say anything about pornography. Much less that it is wrong.

I still haven't heard why it isn't such...
 
Are you talking about porn or Religion? Because that list of negatives could be tagged to both.

you are talking about a perversion of religion. Pornography is a perversion

How many millions of dollars has the church paid out for Priests abuses? How about all those "mega church" leaders who get caught up in scandal? What about the women who have suffered under Islam?
How about the children who suffered under Mormonism?


Every religion suffers from the same sickness, they are just to high on their own moral horses to admit it, and divert their attention to attacking others in the name of "moral right" and saving them from evil...

Excuse me, which children suffered under mormonism?

Much of which you mention is still a perversion of the tenets of those churches, and not their actual beliefs.
Catholicism does not teach child abuse, the priests made very bad and criminal choices.
 
you are talking about a perversion of religion. Pornography is a perversion

How many millions of dollars has the church paid out for Priests abuses? How about all those "mega church" leaders who get caught up in scandal? What about the women who have suffered under Islam?
How about the children who suffered under Mormonism?


Every religion suffers from the same sickness, they are just to high on their own moral horses to admit it, and divert their attention to attacking others in the name of "moral right" and saving them from evil...

Excuse me, which children suffered under mormonism?

Much of which you mention is still a perversion of the tenets of those churches, and not their actual beliefs.
Catholicism does not teach child abuse, the priests made very bad and criminal choices.

Spare the rod, spoil the child... How about Exodus 21:7 and selling your daughter to slavery?

Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with faith, or spirituality... There is a problem with religion and forcing your beliefs unto others.


As for the children hurt by Mormonism, ask the numerous child brides married off by the "profits" to men far older than them... I'm sure that they weren't hurt by those actions at all...
 
Those aren't mormons. Those are polygamous offshoots that the mormon church has no affiliation with.
 
If they claim to be Mormon, then they ARE Mormon.

No.

If the mainstream Mormon church says these offshoots aren't Mormon...they aren't. That's the end of it, really.

Any church body has the authority to say whether or not a group *claiming* membership in that church actually has the right to do so. LDS leadership, for example, has the near-absolute right to say who is a Mormon and who is not; the Episcopal Church has a similar right to not recognize these breakaway groups who quit because of the Robinson thing; etc.

In general, you can't break away from a group and yet still lay claim to membership in that group. Kind of like the Maquis and the Federation. ;)
 
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