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Do you think Doctor 10.2 told Rose about Donna?

Ol Scratch said:
I'm still confused by how confident the Doctor was that there were no alternative-universe versions of himself. What's so special about Time Lords that makes them uni-universal? They developed the ability to travel through time and space and, also apparently through artificial means, gave themselves the ability to regenerate when they die. Not sure how that makes them unique to a single universe anymore than any other advanced race.

A bit off-topic, I know, and I apologize.
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If there's a Torchwood in the alternate universe, then that means the werewolves were defeated by "someone" at Torchwood Manor, however the note of their being a president and not a primeminister does mean that the Royal family was pushed to one side somehow... So, maybe Victoria didn't survive?
 
Guy Gardener said:
Ol Scratch said:
I'm still confused by how confident the Doctor was that there were no alternative-universe versions of himself. What's so special about Time Lords that makes them uni-universal? They developed the ability to travel through time and space and, also apparently through artificial means, gave themselves the ability to regenerate when they die. Not sure how that makes them unique to a single universe anymore than any other advanced race.

A bit off-topic, I know, and I apologize.
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If there's a Torchwood in the alternate universe, then that means the werewolves were defeated by "someone" at Torchwood Manor, however the note of their being a president and not a primeminister does mean that the Royal family was pushed to one side somehow... So, maybe Victoria didn't survive?
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I don't know about that. There are any number of ways the alternate universe's Torchwood Institute could have been founded. For all we know, the alt-universe Torchwood could have been founded after Charles Dickens encountered the Gelf in 1869, or in response to an attempted Slitheen invasion in 1786.

And who knows when their United Kingdom became the People's Republic of Great Britain? For all we know, the Monarchy might have been abolished in the wake of World War II.
 
Allyn Gibson said:
ClayinCA said:
Yeah, but I don't think things are as they seem in that issue. I can't imagine IDW would be allowed to do what it looks like they're doing...
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They only way IDW could do that is if the BBC approved it. When you write in someone else's universe, you don't get to write something they don't approve of. When you play in someone else's sandbox, you can't break the toys. Tony Lee didn't just do that; the BBC would have signed off every step of the way.
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Well, yeah, I know - that's what I meant when I said "I can't imagine IDW would be allowed to do what it looks like they're doing."
I don't think the BBC (or RTD, or whomever) would let Tony Lee/IDW make such a big change in the character of "Doctor 10.5" or whatever we're supposed to call him. RTD is big on happy endings, and he set up the whole situation of having a human Doctor specifically so that he could give Rose that happy ending (read his excellent book The Writer's Tale, it's all in there);
I can't believe he'd permit a comic book tie-in to make a change that big (especially bearing in mind that it's a comic book that's not even legally for sale in the U.K.).

No, I still think it's a double-bluff of sorts, and that things are not exactly what they seem.
 
Someone mind telling me what it looks like "The Forgotten" is doing with 10.2 and Rose?
 
The big bad "seems" to be 10.2.

After four issues listening to a shadow rant, he's finally come into the light. And it's him with an evil little Spock goatie. No sign of Rose. Of course the entire encounter is happening in a "gallifreyan matrix" just like in the Deadly Assassin, since the author seems to suggest that the Tardis has a "little matrix" on board... Although, that might be a bunt to left field, since some creature is "attached" to the doctor right now while he's passed out in the console room. Which means that it's one of those turn left creatures, or it's something else similar to a black mercy, or it's just organic tech to boost the signal from 10.2 as he fights 10 telepathically from another universe.

It's issue 5 of 12. Nothing yet should be completely as it seems.
 
Hmmm. I don't see why the fact that a character that looks like an evil version of the Doctor must be 10.2. Surely it could be some other creature imitating the Doctor, or some other incarnation of the Doctor a la the Vaneyard?
 
Totally like the Valeyard, his endgame is to steal the Doctors remaining regenerations. Since there are no other timelords left, it's either 10.2, or some"thing" faking the entire 10.2 angle.

Just walk into a comic shop and start reading.

http://www.comicshoplocator.com/
 
Here's some relevant shots of what Gardener is talking about...




And here's some because I like them...


 
 
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Here's some relevant shots of what Gardener is talking about...



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Hmm. I don't buy it. 10.2 may have been scared by bloodshed and war, but he wasn't malevolent or murderous. I think this is a red herring.
 
And having just read the conclusion - I love being right!

Great issue, all told, with nice "appearances" from some friendly faces. I do wish circumstances had allowed Pia Guerra to draw the whole series, though, since the artist for the last issue or two didn't really have a handle on several of the likenesses.

Did anybody else read the last issue? What did you think?
 
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