SG-A – Vegas (5x19) – (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS!)

[rac76]

It isn't quite "stand alone" as you will see next week.

Okay, so some how it's continues..cool. I don't know if I'm looking forward to next week's episode or not, but I'll watch it to see how they bring this episode into the last episode ever. I'm curious to see how it's done..until next week! lol..

Oh, and the music..enjoyed it every much. Especially since they played my fave Rolling Stones song. Their song and the Marilyn Manson song seemed to fit perfectly into the episode. I was impressed.

 

[Kirby]

I gave it a bad. I hate that quick editing style, and the hardcore music. The part with the Sopranos guys just felt akward, like someone was trying too hard to write some Sopranos dialogue and it just fell flat.
I'm glad they finally put some Johnny Cash music in an episode though, I've been waiting for that for quite a while.

 

[Captain Shaw]

I think John is gay in this reality, the field medic was a "he" and he was involved with him.

I thought that.
Had to say i loved this episode.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Wow. SG:A is so much better minus Teyla. This also demonstrated that Joe Flanigan could be an effective lead actor on an entirely different sort of series (tho I'd hate to see him relegated to yet another dumb cop show).

But still: Average. Would have been Above Average but arrrgh, why did they use that obnoxious editing style - I have no idea what show they were trying to imitate (CSI: Las Vegas?) but it was obnoxious and pointless, since this was an alternate-universe romp rather than a parody of overwrought cop shows.

I think John is gay in this reality, the field medic was a "he" and he was involved with him.

I thought that.
Had to say i loved this episode.

That infuriated me! They make Shep gay and don't give us a sex scene?!?! Flashback, anything. Damn them! Damn them to HELL!

I did have some fun speculating who the unnamed medic might be. I'd love it to be Ronan. If Shep can be gay in this reality, Ronan can be a gay Earthling. Or even better, if in this reality, there is a human by the name of Michael Kenmore...

It's not Carson, tho. They showed Carson working with the "FBI" or whoever those guys were supposed to be. Okay by me, Shep & Carson, ehhh.

I feel like this episode ventured into TATV territory

WHOAH! It wasn't nearly that bad!!!

Of course, they only got the announcement of the cancellation just prior to this episode.

Yeah, this does not feel like the penultimate episode of a series.

 

[MeanJoePhaser]

Good, for not being a body switching episode or another episode set aboard a wraith ship.

Needed more throwing Sopranos characters across the room. 5 minutes of that would be nice.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

But seriously, folks, the reason making Shep gay as a motive to rescue the medic doesn't work is that 100% straight Shep in our universe has amply demonstrated the tendency to take lunatic risks to rescue people he isn't having sex with, simply on the basis that they are his friends and fellow soldiers, so why give MU Shep any other motive than simple loyalty? To make it a personal and self-serving motive to rescue his fuck-buddy doesn't enhance his heroism and potentially diminishes it.

And, maybe it was just me, but Alt-Keller was smoking hot in this episode.

She was wearing so much eye makeup, she looked like a raccoon. Is that what the female characters in CSI look like?

As for the music: "Sympathy for the Devil" was too obvious and corny of a choice and make me cringe. Marilyn Manson and Johnny Cash came off much better.

 

[USS Kongo]

I actually enjoyed this very much. I figured it was an alternate universe, and liked the darker aspects on display here--from Sheppard playing poker with the Sopranos actors, to having the Rollng Stones' Sympathy For The Devil playing while the Wraith cruises the casino.

I was never a fan of the CSI series, but still enjoyed the reference to that show here. It's cool seeing what Sheppard would have become had he not joined the Stargate program. And yet, at the end of the day, he still becomes a hero. Very nice twist on the alternate universe story.

Sean

 

[Gertch]

I think John is gay in this reality, the field medic was a "he" and he was involved with him.

I thought that.
Had to say i loved this episode.

That infuriated me! They make Shep gay and don't give us a sex scene?!?! Flashback, anything. Damn them! Damn them to HELL!

Thank God.

So it was okay then that hero Shep was heterosexual and the murderous cash taking inept loser Shep was homosexual? I suppose any mention for a special interest group is good press.

 

[Nerroth]

Considering the debate over Stargate and Star Trek on another sub-forum, I found it ironic to see the reference to ST: The Experience in this ep!


The start was a bt cheesy, but it got much better near the end...


...and if it is true that the cancellation came through as this ep was in the works, it would be, ironically, similar to another series which was working on an alternate universe story when its papers were served.

 

[Brent]

Oh yea, the Star Trek The Experience reference, I loved that, especially since it was Picardo that got to say that it was shut down, and then Zelenka saying he wanted to go to it hehe.

 

[USS Kongo]

Oh yea, the Star Trek The Experience reference, I loved that, especially since it was Picardo that got to say that it was shut down, and then Zelenka saying he wanted to go to it hehe.

Yeah, having them mention the Star Trek Experience was a funny moment.

Sean

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I thought that.
Had to say i loved this episode.

That infuriated me! They make Shep gay and don't give us a sex scene?!?! Flashback, anything. Damn them! Damn them to HELL!

Thank God.

Ah cmon, let's make these actors earn their paychecks. The show is almost over anyway...

So it was okay then that hero Shep was heterosexual and the murderous cash taking inept loser Shep was homosexual? I suppose any mention for a special interest group is good press.

Yeah I noticed that, too. I'm sure the SG:A writers were trying to be all pc about it, but they managed to do the opposite.

It used to be standard that if you had a character who you implied was gay, that character had to commit suicide or otherwise die by the end of the story "to make up for it." Funny how the SG:A writers accidentally resurrected a bigoted element of fiction that went out of fashion in the 1950s.

 

[Harvey]

It used to be standard that if you had a character who you implied was gay, that character had to commit suicide or otherwise die by the end of the story "to make up for it." Funny how the SG:A writers accidentally resurrected a bigoted element of fiction that went out of fashion in the 1950s.

Insert Brokeback Mountain comment here.

 

[Johnny Rico]

Well, dammit, I didn't think these episodes were going to air until next week. I caught the repeat, but missed the first 20 minutes. So I guess I missed some of the CSI build up at the beginning.

So what this whole episode kind of in a mirror universe, or was this just Sheppard in a mirror universe?

 

[Harvey]

The whole episode was in a mirror universe, I think.

 

[DWF]

It used to be standard that if you had a character who you implied was gay, that character had to commit suicide or otherwise die by the end of the story "to make up for it." Funny how the SG:A writers accidentally resurrected a bigoted element of fiction that went out of fashion in the 1950s.

It's more likely this Shep felt he had lived though the Gulf war when he should died, os he felt he was living on barrowed time so to speak.

 

[Brent]

The whole episode was in a mirror universe, I think.

The entire episode was in an alternate reality.

 

[JiNX-01]

I don't get the MU references in the comments here. I ranked it Gate Malfunction because it lived down to my fears -- the penultimate episode was just a lame AU episode. Maybe it's because I don't watch CSI so I didn't "get it."

In fact, I would have loved it if it actually had been an MU tribute to Trek (considering the history of Trek references, guest actors, etc. on the 'Gates...).

 

[Broccoli]

Five-Minute Atlantis: "Vegas"

Reporter: Amazing these new cameras we reporters get! I’m streaming the new Star Trek trailer!
Alt-Sheppard: Er…no. It’s just me.

Alt-Sheppard: Mr. Wrinkly Dead Guy here has lots of crazy stuff on him.
Alt-Keller: Well now that I’m here, I’ll make sure he doesn’t anymore.
Alt-Sheppard: Should you really have your hair down like that?
Alt-Keller: We are pretending it’s CSI. All the bimbos have their hair down when examining a dead body.
Alt-Sheppard: You’re a bimbo?

Alt-Woosley: Hello, I’m an FBI agent in this universe.
Alt-Sheppard: What do you want?
Alt-Woosley: Nothing. I’m just here now, so when I pop up later, you’ll know.

Nurse: So, are you going to call me later?
Alt-Sheppard: Sorry, I’m into dudes.
Nurse: Okay. Wait…what?

Sick Guy: Damn kids with their damn rock music and their damn punk-hair styles and their –
Wraith: KILL! KILL! KILL!
Sick Guy: And their damn hands that eat people.

Alt-Sheppard: Him…I’m going to go follow this guy for no reason other than the fact he lives next to the guy who just died that I don’t know about yet.

Wraith: What better way for me to acclimate life on Earth than to become a card shark. This makes perfect sense for a Wraith!

Alt-Sheppard: Thank you for letting me join this high stakes poker game with no questions asked whatsoever.
Wraith: Ditto.
Daniel Craig: Ditto.

Wraith: I win!
Sopranos Guy: Hey! I want my money back!
Wraith: (SHOVE!) That’s for the final episode!

Wraith: RUN! RUN! RUN!
Alt-Sheppard: RUN! RUN! RUN!
Wraith: FALL! FALL! SPLAT! RUN!
Alt-Sheppard: WTF?!

Alt-Woosley: Come with us.
Alt-Sheppard: Why?
Alt-Woosley: All I can say is that we’ve gone from CSIto Casino Royale. Now, prepare for The X-Files.

Alt-McKay: So, there are aliens and stuff and we know everything about you, including the fact that you’ve never been married.
Alt-Sheppard: Damn Prop 8.

Alt-Todd: Blue skies/Purple rain/Deep down/It rains.
Alt-McKay: Oh no. He’s getting all beatneck on us! Someone, get him a copy of On the Road stat!
Alt-Sheppard: Wait. Let me write this stuff down!
Alt-McKay: Why? It's crap.
Alt-Sheppard: I know, but this junk somehow sells, and I’ll be deemed a poetic genius!

Alt-Sheppard: Well thanks for showing me around and everything. My favorite part was the McKay/Keller ‘ship reference. I think we need more of those.
Alt-McKay: I agree.
Alt-Sheppard: So, why did you do all this? Am I needed on some far distant planet or something to stop this guy?
Alt-McKay: No. I just wanted to be nice. We are really just going to cut you loose now.

Alt-Sheppard: Well, now that my time has been wasted, I think I’ll go reenact the new Star Trek trailer again.

Alt-McKay: Snide Star Trek reference.
Alt-Woolsey: I used to be on Star Trek reference.
Alt-Zelenka: I like Star Trek reference.

Alt-Sheppard: Hey, I somehow found the trailer the Wraith had!
Wraith: BANG! BANG! BANG!
Alt-Sheppard: I’ve been shot! Damn it. This was a new shirt. Now way I’ll be able to return it now!

Alt-McKay: Alt-Sheppard told us where the Wraith is!
Fighter Jets: FIRE!
Wraith: KA-BOOM!

Alt-McKay: Whew! We blew up whatever he was building.
Alt-Zelenka: Wait! He sent a message to another universe!
Alt-McKay: That seems needlessly complicated.
Alt-Zelenka: Maybe, but it doesn’t look like the Wraith here got the message.
Alt-McKay: All right then! Screw the other universes, I say! Who cares about the other guys?
Alt-Zelenka: Also, Alt-Sheppard’s dead.
Alt-McKay: I already said, “Who cares?”
(The Wraith message travels the multiverse at ludicrous speed.)
The End

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Shout out to Zeke and FiveMinute.net for the concept.

 

[FredH]

Can I have a series set in that universe, please?

Also: A-10s! Yay!