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New Kelvin wallpapers

nice wallpapers. to bad the ship design sucks!

I dunno.... I think that design is growing on me.

That's the point, there isn't supposed to be a leading zero. I am vindicated!

I know I,m a bit of a newb to this site but were there complaints about the leading 0 on the NX 01?

NX-01 is different, as it is a two digit number and there is no precedent for a one digit registry. However, a four digit number with a leading zero is dumb and pointless since there is precedent for a three-digit registry number, the USS Grissom.

It is nice to see someone else has caught the mistake Abrams and Cohorts have made and is tryong to show folks how it's supposed to be. Props to my brother who rejects the zero.


So do you learn to count 01, 02, 03, 04 etc?

Nope? Didn't think so.

NX-01 is EXACTLY the same situation, regardless of number of digits. Be it 2, 4, or 10.
 
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Oh yes! Yes! YES!!! Finally, someone else who feels the exact same way I do.

Where's the leading 0? CANON!! :klingon::evil:


That's the point, there isn't supposed to be a leading zero. I am vindicated!

Man, this is unfortunate. I had really hoped we'd gotten to the point where details like these weren't that big of a deal.

I mean, don't get me wrong, Wormhole, I totally see where you're coming from, but in the grand scheme of things, this trip-up in detail is trifling at best.
 
I get this weird feeling Kelvin models and toy ships will sell really well. Don't know why...it just has that sort of look.
 
I dunno.... I think that design is growing on me.



I know I,m a bit of a newb to this site but were there complaints about the leading 0 on the NX 01?

NX-01 is different, as it is a two digit number and there is no precedent for a one digit registry. However, a four digit number with a leading zero is dumb and pointless since there is precedent for a three-digit registry number, the USS Grissom.

It is nice to see someone else has caught the mistake Abrams and Cohorts have made and is tryong to show folks how it's supposed to be. Props to my brother who rejects the zero.


So do you learn to count 01, 02, 03, 04 etc?

Nope? Didn't think so.

NX-01 is EXACTLY the same situation, regardless of number of digits. Be it 2, 4, or 10.


Consider this, USS Grissom's registry is NCC-638, not NCC-0638. Therefore why is Kelvin's registry NCC-0514 as opposed to NCC-514?
 
NX-01 is different, as it is a two digit number and there is no precedent for a one digit registry. However, a four digit number with a leading zero is dumb and pointless since there is precedent for a three-digit registry number, the USS Grissom.

It is nice to see someone else has caught the mistake Abrams and Cohorts have made and is tryong to show folks how it's supposed to be. Props to my brother who rejects the zero.


So do you learn to count 01, 02, 03, 04 etc?

Nope? Didn't think so.

NX-01 is EXACTLY the same situation, regardless of number of digits. Be it 2, 4, or 10.


Consider this, USS Grissom's registry is NCC-638, not NCC-0638. Therefore why is Kelvin's registry NCC-0514 as opposed to NCC-514?
Because some guy decided to make the Grissom's registry number 638, and some other guy decided to make the Kelvin's registry number 0514. You're going to have to deal with it. :cool:
 
So do you learn to count 01, 02, 03, 04 etc?

Nope? Didn't think so.

NX-01 is EXACTLY the same situation, regardless of number of digits. Be it 2, 4, or 10.


Consider this, USS Grissom's registry is NCC-638, not NCC-0638. Therefore why is Kelvin's registry NCC-0514 as opposed to NCC-514?
Because some guy decided to make the Grissom's registry number 638, and some other guy decided to make the Kelvin's registry number 0514. You're going to have to deal with it. :cool:


Exactly.

The guy in charge of the NX-01 thought to add a zero.

The guy in charge of the Grissom and/or similar class starships decided not to.

The guy in charge of the Kelvin and/or similar class starships decided to add a zero.

Very simple, and more importantly, the zero in the Kelvin's registry is now fact and canon.
 
Isn't there an in story possibility here, that they used 0's in one time frame of history then dropped them later?
 
I wish every thread on the Kelvin didn't have to devolve into this debate.

It reminds me of the bad days of the Enterprise forum, when any thread about the series became a "the series sucks, anyway" argument, for and against.

The Wormhole, your point is valid. Very much so. But it's been made, and then made again, and still again.

We've got your point, already.
 
Isn't there an in story possibility here, that they used 0's in one time frame of history then dropped them later?

I sure hope there isn't...
We don't need any onscreen time wasted with explanations for every little retarded complaint like this zero thing.
 
I dunno.... I think that design is growing on me.



I know I,m a bit of a newb to this site but were there complaints about the leading 0 on the NX 01?

NX-01 is different, as it is a two digit number and there is no precedent for a one digit registry. However, a four digit number with a leading zero is dumb and pointless since there is precedent for a three-digit registry number, the USS Grissom.

It is nice to see someone else has caught the mistake Abrams and Cohorts have made and is tryong to show folks how it's supposed to be. Props to my brother who rejects the zero.


So do you learn to count 01, 02, 03, 04 etc?

Nope? Didn't think so.

NX-01 is EXACTLY the same situation, regardless of number of digits. Be it 2, 4, or 10.


Actually, the NX numbering pattern from the mid-22nd century sort of legitimizes the Kelvin's registry scheme since we've already seen Starfleet ships with a "0" in the number before another digit.
 
Maybe by the time of the Grissom, we got new paint jobs on Fed ships. I mean, the designers changed pretty much everything else.

And, as others have mentioned, Berman and Co. set a precedent with NX-01.
 
Heck, what about the faux Federation "slipstream ship" with the NX-01A registry seen in "Hope and Fear(VOY)"? That episode was filmed at least two or three years prior to the debut of ENTERPRISE. B&B were already futzing with established registry protocols a whole decade ago.
 
Heck, what about the faux Federation "slipstream ship" with the NX-01A registry seen in "Hope and Fear(VOY)"? That episode was filmed at least two or three years prior to the debut of ENTERPRISE. B&B were already futzing with established registry protocols a whole decade ago.

I believe you but I don't recall that episode/ship.

Lets try this train of thought, in light of your new evidence. Things change over time and given enough time things may even change back to the way it was previously done.

Ships have 0's then, years later, they don't. Then, years later they have them again. No big whoop.
 
One would think that a hollow, somewhat cylindrical body of Space-Time, with relatively little extent from one side to its oppsite , that might possibly connect distant regions of the totality of known or supposed objects and phenomena throughout Space...


...Would be slightly more open to another's interpretation of a numerical sequence of digits that include a mathematical value intermediate between positive and negative values, as the begining designation for a crewed spacecraft designed for interstellar travel in a motion picture that derives it's name from a large, self-luminous, heavenly body, traveling or migrating, slowly or with difficulty...


Ahhh...but I guess that's what being a FAN is all about!! :techman:


BTW: That particular VOYAGER Episode (Hope & Fear), was pre-empted in a lot of the syndicated markets that week.
(though I can't for the life of me, remember why, I think it was because of some sports thing.)
I've got every episode of from TNG-on, in sequental order and the first showing, and that is the one episode I had to get as
a re-run.
 
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Heck, what about the faux Federation "slipstream ship" with the NX-01A registry seen in "Hope and Fear(VOY)"? That episode was filmed at least two or three years prior to the debut of ENTERPRISE. B&B were already futzing with established registry protocols a whole decade ago.

I believe you but I don't recall that episode/ship.

Lets try this train of thought, in light of your new evidence. Things change over time and given enough time things may even change back to the way it was previously done.

Ships have 0's then, years later, they don't. Then, years later they have them again. No big whoop.


The fake "USS Dauntless" used in an attempt to trick Voyager's crew into relenquishing their own ship. Came with the faux Starfleet registry "NX-01A." A foreshadowing of registries in the ENT prequel era.
 
NX-01 is different, as it is a two digit number and there is no precedent for a one digit registry. However, a four digit number with a leading zero is dumb and pointless since there is precedent for a three-digit registry number, the USS Grissom.

It is nice to see someone else has caught the mistake Abrams and Cohorts have made and is tryong to show folks how it's supposed to be. Props to my brother who rejects the zero.
You mean there is a precendent for a three-digit registry in TOS (movies). But this isn't TOS, this is a new take on Star Trek. If they want the numbering convention to always have 4 digits, then voila!, a new precedent is set.

There is also no prior precendent for the Enterprise to look the way it does -- Constitution class ships don't look like that. But this is a new style of Star Trek with new art direction.

A Lot of things are different than the precendent set by prior incarnations of Star Trek -- why key on the "zero"?
 
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