What is Nero's beef with Kirk?
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Well, I don't know what a lot of the released ones are about, either.
Yeah, I get a feeling, call it a "hunch," that Nero's ship just goes too far back in time and the Kelvin is just an accident.
No, he's trying to convince us that he's somehow involved with the production of the movie, or knows someone who is, when his poor grammar, punctuation and spelling isn't convincing us of that at all. I remember the poster "Matt" trying to do the same thing many months ago, and I believe he got banned for it. Just a word to the wise, Boz...
There have been at least a couple of posters claiming inside information (or seemingly wanting us to think that they have some) but none of them were Matt and (to my knowledge) no one has been banned for anything of the sort. All such information not issued by someone known to be part of the production should be taken with an appropriate degree of skepticism and nothing more.
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Top 10 reasons why Nero has a beef with Kirk:
10. Drank the last gulp of milk and left the empty carton in the refridgerator.
9. Dutch Oven
8. Horded all the good toupees.
7. Kept leaving the seat up.
6. Kept stealing all the good lines.
5. Cockblocked him one too many times at the company Christmas party.
4. Couldn't keep his hands to himself around the Mrs.
3. Kept calling him "old Baldie" around the ladies in public
2. Left a floater and wouldn't flush for days..
and Number one reason why Nero has a beef with Kirk:
Buttafucco, Buttafucco, Buttafucco!!!
10. Drank the last gulp of milk and left the empty carton in the refridgerator.
9. Dutch Oven
8. Horded all the good toupees.
7. Kept leaving the seat up.
6. Kept stealing all the good lines.
5. Cockblocked him one too many times at the company Christmas party.
4. Couldn't keep his hands to himself around the Mrs.
3. Kept calling him "old Baldie" around the ladies in public
2. Left a floater and wouldn't flush for days..
and Number one reason why Nero has a beef with Kirk:
Buttafucco, Buttafucco, Buttafucco!!!
And it knows the plot of Star Trek XI, too! In this very thread, in fact!
Not a fan, huh?
Not sure how you got from point A to point B on that one. I'll chalk that non sequitur up to quantum theory.
Daniel Craig IS James T. Kirk in: Quantum of Theory...at theatres everywhere this May!
I think it was "MattJC," not "Matt." Sorry for the confusion, but if he didn't get banned anyway, it doesn't matter.
I think it would be interesting to have a villain who goes around destroying things either because he is bored or just for the hell of it.
Why the beef?
'Cause Kirk didn't add Nero to his Facebook account.
'Cause Kirk didn't add Nero to his Facebook account.
Pure fun speculation, which I'm sure will bear no relation to the actual film:
Nero's a hardass Romulan patriot watching his beloved Star Empire grow further defanged in the wake of post-Nemesis events (and belongs to an organization of such, which is where the tattoos come from). In his worldview, the Romulan Empire almost swept to glory after inventing the cloaking device, and would have, had James T. Kirk and the Enterprise not blunted its vanguard in "Balance of Terror." So he goes back to kill Kirk and/or destroy the Enterprise before those events. He overshoots a bit, hence the Kelvin incident and the long wait. The attack on Vulcan, and perhaps other attacks we don't yet know about, is specifically a method of drawing out the Enterprise and Kirk. Nero doesn't know that any one attack will attract them, but he figures that at some point Kirk's personality will out--and meanwhile Nero can happily knock off Federation and Klingon materiel in mass quantities with his Super Octopus.
What Nero doesn't know is that Old Spock, who knows Nero's plan and follows him back, has a deeply personal stake in the matter--which isn't his friendship with Kirk. During "Balance of Terror," Spock's was the deciding voice urging Kirk to attack the Romulan ship, rather than let it escape. Though he knows it's illogical, the human side of Spock has always felt guilty about that, feeling that all the subsequent bloodshed between the Romulans and the Federation is, at some level, his responsibility. That's part of why he pursued Vulcan/Romulan reunification so passionately; and it's an additional spur to his wanting to prevent Nero from making things even worse, even in a timeline which is not his own.
(Because he does know that he's leaving his own timeline, never to return. In the Classic Trek Timeline, Spock disappears into myth and legend.)
Nero's a hardass Romulan patriot watching his beloved Star Empire grow further defanged in the wake of post-Nemesis events (and belongs to an organization of such, which is where the tattoos come from). In his worldview, the Romulan Empire almost swept to glory after inventing the cloaking device, and would have, had James T. Kirk and the Enterprise not blunted its vanguard in "Balance of Terror." So he goes back to kill Kirk and/or destroy the Enterprise before those events. He overshoots a bit, hence the Kelvin incident and the long wait. The attack on Vulcan, and perhaps other attacks we don't yet know about, is specifically a method of drawing out the Enterprise and Kirk. Nero doesn't know that any one attack will attract them, but he figures that at some point Kirk's personality will out--and meanwhile Nero can happily knock off Federation and Klingon materiel in mass quantities with his Super Octopus.
What Nero doesn't know is that Old Spock, who knows Nero's plan and follows him back, has a deeply personal stake in the matter--which isn't his friendship with Kirk. During "Balance of Terror," Spock's was the deciding voice urging Kirk to attack the Romulan ship, rather than let it escape. Though he knows it's illogical, the human side of Spock has always felt guilty about that, feeling that all the subsequent bloodshed between the Romulans and the Federation is, at some level, his responsibility. That's part of why he pursued Vulcan/Romulan reunification so passionately; and it's an additional spur to his wanting to prevent Nero from making things even worse, even in a timeline which is not his own.
(Because he does know that he's leaving his own timeline, never to return. In the Classic Trek Timeline, Spock disappears into myth and legend.)
From what I understand, Nero is an extreme nationalist. He wants a future where the Romulans are the dominant power. I would also assume that following Nemesis, there may have been a renewed push towards reunification as a result of the power vacuum.
As for his "beef" with Kirk, I don't think its anything personal, but a chance to eliminate a person who had an extraordinary role in shaping the events of
the late 23rd century and beyond. Take out Patton or Napoleon and we may be living in a much different world.
As for his "beef" with Kirk, I don't think its anything personal, but a chance to eliminate a person who had an extraordinary role in shaping the events of
the late 23rd century and beyond. Take out Patton or Napoleon and we may be living in a much different world.
"Where's the beef?"
He failed to get the price he wanted on an airline ticket through Priceline.com and has vowed to exact his revenge.
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