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Spock knows the timeline changed because --?

maybe Spock has one of these at hand when the change happens

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GREAT.

That means Kirk and crew will all end up dead in pools of their own blood!:eek:
 
Before i throw my 2 cent about this topic. I dont like time travel concept at all in Star Trek universe. back to topic
I like Vger idea. Vger(in another dimminsion) senses Nero ship going back in time by using space time vortex caused by f.e. blackhole. Vger warns very old dying Spock and leads him where time vortex is. Spock enters time vortex just before it closes and sucessfully warns young Kirk. Spock then dies in XI movie.
 
Before i throw my 2 cent about this topic. I dont like time travel concept at all in Star Trek universe. back to topic
I like Vger idea. Vger(in another dimminsion) senses Nero ship going back in time by using space time vortex caused by f.e. blackhole. Vger warns very old dying Spock and leads him where time vortex is. Spock enters time vortex just before it closes and sucessfully warns young Kirk. Spock then dies in XI movie.
yeah the movie is going to be like something from a FanFilm

total fanwank
 
Not only to prevent the ascension of James T. Kirk and his crew, but to destroy Vulcan and throw the Federation and Klingons into war with each other (remember the destruction of a large part of the Klingon fleet? And mention of the 'galactic Pearl Harbor?). This would leave the Romulans the dominant power in the quadrant, and eliminate any possibility with reunifying with Vulcan and abandoning their warrior ways.

From the sound of things, Nero doesn't have to get the Klingon and Federal into conflict, he takes out the bulk of the Federation and Klingon fleets himself. Rumors have Nero taking out the Federation fleet at Vulcan. Even if he doesn't complete his final objective of destroying vulcan, he's already left his rivals severely weakened.
 
Before i throw my 2 cent about this topic. I dont like time travel concept at all in Star Trek universe. back to topic
I like Vger idea. Vger(in another dimminsion) senses Nero ship going back in time by using space time vortex caused by f.e. blackhole. Vger warns very old dying Spock and leads him where time vortex is. Spock enters time vortex just before it closes and sucessfully warns young Kirk. Spock then dies in XI movie.
yeah the movie is going to be like something from a FanFilm

total fanwank

To be fair, GENERATIONS and FIRST CONTACT could be considered pandering fanwank..but they worked.
 
Not only to prevent the ascension of James T. Kirk and his crew, but to destroy Vulcan and throw the Federation and Klingons into war with each other (remember the destruction of a large part of the Klingon fleet? And mention of the 'galactic Pearl Harbor?). This would leave the Romulans the dominant power in the quadrant, and eliminate any possibility with reunifying with Vulcan and abandoning their warrior ways.

From the sound of things, Nero doesn't have to get the Klingon and Federal into conflict, he takes out the bulk of the Federation and Klingon fleets himself. Rumors have Nero taking out the Federation fleet at Vulcan. Even if he doesn't complete his final objective of destroying vulcan, he's already left his rivals severely weakened.

Yeah, I didn't think about the Starfleet ships destroyed at Vulcan. I wasn't sure whether it was supposed to be a huge chunk of the fleet, or at least as big of a chunk as the Klingons'. Also I may be reading too much into the 'Galactic Pearl Harbor' reference. So perhaps he's merely going to eradicate both, eradicate Vulcan, and then rule the Romulan Empire.
 
Hey I know Badass Captain Robau is so badass he can travel to the future at will and just basically told Old Spock whats happening.
 
Before i throw my 2 cent about this topic. I dont like time travel concept at all in Star Trek universe. back to topic
I like Vger idea. Vger(in another dimminsion) senses Nero ship going back in time by using space time vortex caused by f.e. blackhole. Vger warns very old dying Spock and leads him where time vortex is. Spock enters time vortex just before it closes and sucessfully warns young Kirk. Spock then dies in XI movie.
yeah the movie is going to be like something from a FanFilm

total fanwank

To be fair, GENERATIONS and FIRST CONTACT could be considered pandering fanwank..but they worked.
you are VERY right about Generations.
 
yeah the movie is going to be like something from a FanFilm

total fanwank

To be fair, GENERATIONS and FIRST CONTACT could be considered pandering fanwank..but they worked.
you are VERY right about Generations.

Even FC had strong elements of late 90s fanwank: The Borg? Zefram Cochrane himself? The VOYAGER Holodoctor? A huge space battle? Time travel? The Vulcans even show up at the very end!
 
To be fair, GENERATIONS and FIRST CONTACT could be considered pandering fanwank..but they worked.
you are VERY right about Generations.

Even FC had strong elements of late 90s fanwank: The Borg? Zefram Cochrane himself? The VOYAGER Holodoctor? A huge space battle? Time travel? The Vulcans even show up at the very end!
and that is all very good fanwank, just not as wankery as Generations

For what its worth First Contact is probaly my favourite TNG movie.
 
Maybe there is no "timeline change" and Spock simply follows Nero back in time.

how does someone "simply" go back in time?please get back to me asap. theres some things i'd like to change.

Ask a guy in 1708 how you "simply" fly from New York to London. As soon as he answers you I'll tell you how a guy in the 24th century "simply" goes back in time.
well gee, do you know any that i can pose that question to?:guffaw:
 
maybe Spock has one of these at hand when the change happens

sja_alien_objects_s1_ep07_puzzlebox.gif


GREAT.

That means Kirk and crew will all end up dead in pools of their own blood!:eek:
you know I have been thinking about this, but I cant place what you mean, what pools of blood are you talking about, im very sure CBBC does not allow its characters to be seen dead in pools of blood.

Really esoteric inside reference. Even I had to remember the connection before posting.

If I told you...I'd have to kill you.:shifty:
 
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