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Giant Space Drill (rant, spoilerish)

Yeah the whole space drill thing is pretty dumb. Especially since Nero's got a fucking space octopus!. Why isn't tentacle rape a viable option? Inquiring minds want to know!
 
Seems to me the GSD is based somewhat on solid theory: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator

And yeah, this is a universe that has the tech to move a person's atoms from one place to another and fly faster than light. I'm not too hung up on the GSD, either.

Well, since we've done matter-to-entery-to-matter transportation in the REAL world, I think calling Trek's use of it 'silly' is a pretty stupid thing to do, really.

I don't think anyone is saying matter-energy conversion is impossible.

But trek's application of this science is classic sci-fi SCIENCE!

You know, the whole bringing people back from the dead, splitting one person into Jeckyl and Hyde and the ability to shunt you into an alternate dimension.

So yeah, I'm calling transporters silly, and they were silly from the beginning, since one of the first things we saw them do was split Kirk into good-Kirk and bad-Kirk.

And then, even awesomer, join him back together into a single Kirk!
 
Seems to me the GSD is based somewhat on solid theory: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator

And yeah, this is a universe that has the tech to move a person's atoms from one place to another and fly faster than light. I'm not too hung up on the GSD, either.

Well, since we've done matter-to-entery-to-matter transportation in the REAL world, I think calling Trek's use of it 'silly' is a pretty stupid thing to do, really.

I don't think anyone is saying matter-energy conversion is impossible.

But trek's application of this science is classic sci-fi SCIENCE!

You know, the whole bringing people back from the dead, splitting one person into Jeckyl and Hyde and the ability to shunt you into an alternate dimension.

So yeah, I'm calling transporters silly, and they were silly from the beginning, since one of the first things we saw them do was split Kirk into good-Kirk and bad-Kirk.

And then, even awesomer, join him back together into a single Kirk!

...and even more awesomer yet ----- TUVIX!
 
- Those who are hopeful, and optimistic, and going to see it.

Me.

The third kind is like me before the last election: they probably will see it, they want it to be good, but they're so nervous aobut it that they're looking for any small problem that they think they perceive and are blowing it up way out of proportion to feed their pessimism.

So, stop looking. ;)

So, my advice is, relax.

By George, I think he's got it.
 
Star Trek usually does much better than a space drill.

Not really.

This plan by the villan Nero is at least as well-thought out as the Borg's poorly-designed scheme to stop humans from having their 'First Contact' with the vulcans.

Now THAT was a plan (and movie plot) full of logical holes...however, that film was still damn entertaining.

Hey, the Borg can travel back in time 300 years...but they can't aim. :lol:

One relatively small hydrogen bomb would have put a certain end to Cochran. Evidently no one in the 24th century knows how to build a warhead that powerful.
 
Bingo! The Narada will be dropping "red matter" (a fictitious miracle substance) that will msot likely create a singularity when it mixes with the core materials of Vulcan.

I know I've heard the "red matter" rumor before, but this is the first time I'm paying attention to it. Is this supposed to be a futuristic red mercury ... a weird substance supposedly used to create Soviet nukes back in the 1980's?

Well, being born in the 90's, I'm not well versed in Soviet technology. But I can definitely see parallels. E.g. enemies using "red" substances to create a WMD
 
My objection concerning the need for a drill to implant a black hole still stands, however.

TGT
Yes, it's totally silly. Were I Nero, I'd go for something simpler like rendering the planet uninhabitable. Then again, I have read How To Destroy the Earth and Evil Overlords List, so I'm a bit more reasonable when it comes to villanry and evil plans.
I still love those. :D

Yeah the whole space drill thing is pretty dumb. Especially since Nero's got a fucking space octopus!. Why isn't tentacle rape a viable option? Inquiring minds want to know!
Heh heh heh. That's what the GSD really is.
tentacllllle pooooorrrrrn from spaaaaaaace!
 
The drill is the thing we see when Kirk and Co are skydiving in the re-entry suits?
 
Romulans and their wacky plans. :rolleyes:
Won't they ever learn, sometimes the subtle approach is the best?

lol
 
I do wonder where Nero was storing that hundreds of miles drill on his ship, but what really kind of bothers me is (a couple may be MINOR SPOILERS but have been thrown around so much I'm not going to mask them):

-- The transporter is (in)conveniently being blocked in some way that forces them to use the shuttle and skydive. Gee. Can't use the transporter. Haven't advanced a plot with that one before in Trek. CLICHE TREK.
-- Kirk apparently destroys part of the drill with a Romulan phaser. So, why couldn't the Enterprise blast the drill with phasers and photon torpedoes from space? Something shields it? For hundreds of miles? RATIONALIZATION FOR ACTION ALERT.
-- Vulcan sends out a distress call that is picked up by the Feds on Earth. And, the only ship apparently close enough to respond in time is? The Enterprise (ta da!). Gee. CLICHE TREK.

And, the big one --
-- No Vulcan force on could've attacked the drill site on the ground? Long before the Enterprise gets there? Not bombed it or fired missiles at it or anything? Not even stormed it with their own troops?

Not that the movie won't be entertaining and have rip-roaring action, but if we want to tear a scene down, any scene, there are always many ways.

As far as suspension of disbelief goes, I already buy into "Trek physics" and "Trek tech." And if I could be made to believe Project Genesis (perhaps the most far-fetched tech thing ever for Trek times -- come on, the ability to make an entire planet, or even part of one, an Eden), then I can buy a simple Romulan drill.
 
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There should be a space workbench and space C-clamp too. Otherwise, instead of sustaining a hole, Vulcan may just go spinning off into space.
 
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