ST-One
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Oh? Why not?
Do you like the *NEW* NCC-1701? Simple Yes or No.
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Oh? Why not?
It's not how it's been so far, why start now?
I also think it's a kind of cop out to throw decades of story down the toilet just for one more movie, we don't know for sure if it's a reboot it seems, but if it is it's a serious cop out.
Why not start now ?
Trek was already pretty much dead in the water...It has been a laughing stock in they eyes of the general public for years.
It's the perfect time to restart it and try to bring in new blood.It took them too long to realize and do it in fact.
My TOS dvd's will always be where they are now.Nobody is destroying them.
Of all things this fear of change and departure from the comfort of the familiar baffles me the most.
Then why not change from the laughing stock of the last two movies by by diffrent to them, have a decent storyline?
Why the physical design changes? how does that make the movie more appealing?
Imagine "listen guys this Bond formula is starting to wear thin, what if Bond was a woman...from the future...and it turns out...she was already dead"
So far it looks like a star trek parody
Care to enlighten us to the exact storyline ?
Because all we know is bits and pieces with no idea how exactly they fit together and play out on screen.
Sure, fans speculate endlessly but it's all still speculation.
The storyline maybe decent or crap surely, but I'll decide that when i have all the info.
Not before.
Why not update it physically ?
Should we stick to what was made back in the 70's. A retro look ?
It will soon be 2009. It was time for things to be updated.
Don't like how they updated it. Cool and fine.
Could they have done it differently and better and closer to the old and familiar ? Sure
A 1000 people would have done 1000 different things.
This is what JJ and his team did.I will make my final informed decision next May on if they were right, wrong or somewhere in between.
um, right...
Maybe to you and some others....not to me and some others
Why are people on this board so pedantic?
I didn't say it had a bad story, the point was, if you want to refresh from the last two disasters, why would a prequel with an interesting story not be enough?
It's nothing much to do with the 1970s, it's not set in the 1970s, it's set in the 23rd century, and theres established precedents of what that exact ship looks like, so when they decided to do change the design, I'd be interested to know what prompted them to do that.
It's not set in 2009.
New designs and tech can be available all the time, why not redesign the D every season? This isn't an upgrade tho like the D bridge in Generations or the TMP refit, it's going back in time and changing what it used to look like, so I'm curious what made them decide to do that.
Changing something for it's own sake, is what I was getting at there, also there was a south park refrence about really bad movie writers and directors.um, right...
Don't you think the bridge is a bit...camp and exadurated? like it's screaming I'M A SCI FI SHOW!
Phoenix, do you honestly think 60s Sets and a 60s ship would work on the big screen and be taken seriously? The 1960s Design is his 1960s interpretation of what something "From the future" would look like. Matt didn't warp into the future to see what ships would look like. He designed it at the time with the influences of designs from the time. I know people will say it's "Timeless" or whatever else, and for Trek fans it is, but then designs, or more specifically, the design aspects in the rest of the world have moved on for the most part since then. It also doesn't help when ships on TV and film since then have more familiar modern flavors than the original ship which sort of "outdates" it even more.
To be honest I haven't made up my mind 100% yet.
The 1 or 2 pictures I've seen so far are not enough, since they don't show the whole thing.
And the trailer... I've only seen the crappy cam version which doesn't allow for much detail.
From what I've seen though, it's probably not what I'd do but I kind of like it.
Why would it not "work" in the big screen?
eg with the bridge, same basic design, but larger set, larger view screen etc
Too plain, not really a lot of sophistication or functionality to it. It's mostly buttons with more random blinking lights and static images of space above. Maybe an occasional chart or graph over on the port side of the bridge. Not a lot of functionality. Sleeker designs these days so the bridge would be more circular. Some different color schemes that are more relevant today. The bridge also needs a second turbolift...
The original ship was a death trap. Not a lot of believable sense of scale to it to project on the big screen IMHO.
Same as why they changed it in "The Motion Picture."
Siwilliams
Fleet Captain
No, what's wrong with the one used in the movies?
It seems to be a far more radical overhaul than the TMP upgrade though, if they worked on screen why not an upgraded version of the TOS bridge, we'll just have to agree to disagree I suppose, I really don't see the problem with it, people siad the D didn't work on the big screen and I didn't see that either.
ST-One
Vice Admiral
Oh, for goodness' sake!
This is a new Star Trek!
Who cares about how it looks so long as the characters are the same as we know them?
This is 2008 and not 1964!
No, it's not a new star trek, if it was a new star trek it would be new, it's not new, it's a re-do of the old, so it's not new at all, in fact it would be the least "new" star trek since ENT
ST-One
Vice Admiral
... Well, it is new Star Trek, in the sense that Casino Royale was new Bond. The character(s) is(are) the same, but they are played by different actor(s), even though there's one that was part of the original show (Nimoy/Dench). That's it.
(and while we're on the topic, somebody should totally make a remake of that old space opera flick... what was it called? Star Wars?
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(and while we're on the topic, somebody should totally make a remake of that old space opera flick... what was it called? Star Wars?
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To expect that this film would slavishly adhere to a 60s aesthetic is not logical.
(and while we're on the topic, somebody should totally make a remake of that old space opera flick... what was it called? Star Wars?
Give it time.
I have no doubt it will happen.
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