4 Clip descriptions from Empire *Spoiler heavy*
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It wouldn't work that way in modern times. As said, alcohol travels easily, is dirt cheap, and would sell well despite being dirt cheap to acquire. And recipes travel even more easily; nobody would actually haul the contaminated ethanol from the edges of space, of course.
Indeed, for all we know, the recipe is Terran, and the name is for marketability only. That's how it would certainly go if we ever made contact with distant aliens for real...
In the end, knowledge of Cardassia by 23rd century humans is a perfectly conflict-free and acceptable Trek factoid, just as it has always been. Only, it no longer is speculation that could go either way, but an established factoid. Insofar as one believes in a connection between STXI and the rest of Trek, that is.
Timo Saloniemi
I watched the clip, Scotty says "Admiral Archer's beagle".
Ah, well... nice nod.
That wouldn't have tied the gag into either Star Trek canon or anything that many audience members would get.
The viewership of "Enterprise" may have been small, but I guarantee you that a lot more people watched it than have heard of or would remember "Captain Robert April."
I would be very surprised if that were true.
^I don't know... when you get right down to it, the only reason I recognize that name is from the "Who was Enterprise's first captain?!?" debates. If someone has never heard of those debates, watched that one episode of TAS, or hasn't read very specific Trek novels, there aren't very many things pointing to a Captain April.
Rii
Rear Admiral
Perhaps they should've used April himself.
It's a funny gag! For many reasons.
Umm... interesting avatar you've thar lately, SP.
You must live in a continual state of surprise and confusion then.
Dude, almost no one knows who the fuck April was. Knowing about "Captain Robert April" is prima facie evidence of having been sucked so far into the event horizon of Trek Nerdism that not even common sense can escape.
Seconded^^^
That much is true. Welcome.
You must not like living in "the real world" very much then. There is NO WAY that more people remember a CARTOON character from TAS with ONE appearance over 30 years ago than there are people who remember watching Captain Archer just a few years ago. It would be akin to saying more people are aware of Andy Bathgate than of Wayne Gretzky (and even that is stretching the analogy as there are more people who know who Andy Bathgate was than who are aware of "Captain Robert April").
3D Master
Rear Admiral
Captain Archer was the captain of a continuity violating pile of junk. The movie this new movie is supposedly made for, is for people who wouldn't know who EITHER of the two is.
So why continue with the continuity violating junk. Better to use a name that actually matters to people who know TOS, a movie this supposedly is a "prequel/continuation" to.
You are quite the little insufferable fundamentalist, aren't you? The movie isn't being made for purists like you. That IS one thing that has been stated up front, unambiguously, from every member of the production team who has had their comments in print. Get OVER IT. I prefer a reference to Archer (who is not violating any continuity, no matter how much you'd like to think otherwise--YOU don't get to decide, the owners of the franchise do), an ACTUAL ON-SCREEN character who has been seen by millions over some cartoon character that matters to far fewer fans of Trek than you think (and, no, you DON'T get to decide who is a fan and who isn't--that kind of presumption is errant nonsense and arrogant twaddle).
And, by the way, expressing your opinion in a tone that implies it is actually factual is EXCEEDINGLY annoying, as well as evidence of boorish manners. Do try to keep some perspective. Just because YOU don't like something does NOT make it a FACT that it is "a pile of shit" or whatever other descriptor you happen to choose. YOU are NOT the arbiter of taste, fashion and certainly NOT the guardian of all that is "sacred and true" about a form of ENTERTAINMENT. It is an attitude like yours that makes people NOT want to be associated with Trek "fandom". Thankfully, yours is NOT the majority view, even in this highly concentrated collection of Trek fans. And even more thankfully, YOU have NOTHING to do with the upcoming film--I SHUDDER to think of the drivel that would have resulted otherwise.
3D Master
Rear Admiral
No, actually they do NOT get to decide that, and he DOES violate continuity. Every single second of Enterprise screen time violates continuity.
And hated by millions more, but you know.
Except that I haven't given an opinion, I've actually given a fact. Even Enterprise FANS and applaudists say Enterprise for the most part is bad. If the biggest cheerleaders say something is bad, you can say safely it's a fact that it's bad. And a whole lot worse than bad.
And if I had made Trek XI, it would have been amazing from start to finish.
Actually, it would have been an epic failure...Just like every single one of your posts.
WOW.
I guess when psychiatrists say "you can't talk someone out of their delusions", it's true.(and, no, they're NOT facts--they're your opinion. You really need to learn the difference)