Other minor players in the Dominion War

[Ethros]

It's easy when taking an overall look on World War II for history to concentrate on the major players, Britain, USA and the USSR for the allies, and Germany, Italy, Japan for the "bad guys" let's say.
But of course looking at this you see there were dozens of minor countries also in play
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allies_of_World_War_II

From looking at Memory Alpha I see the novels had the Gorn fighting on the Allies side-
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Gorn

So is it possible that in the Dominion War there were other independent species on the Allies side besides the UFP, the Klingons and Romulans? And if so who?

The Tholians and Miradorn took out non-aggression pacts before the war started, so I guess you could count them out. I always wanted to see more of the Children of Tama (Tamarians) from TNG: Darmok. Their ships were just as if not more powerful than a Galaxy class vessel, and with the improved dialogues since that episode it'd be cool to have them helping out
"The beast at Tanagra. Uzani with fists closed"


Also wasn't there a thing in DS9: "Valiant" that Nog was on his way to Fereginar to present the Nagus with a proposition from the Federation to help out in the war. But that plot strand seemed to be quickly forgotten. The D'Kora class Ferengi Marauders seen in TNG were pretty tough, with Ferengi space so close in Cardassian/Dominion territory it would seem they should have considered it when the war was going badly.

Any other suggestions?

 

[dave_R_treker]

Also wasn't there a thing in DS9: "Valiant" that Nog was on his way to Fereginar to present the Nagus with a proposition from the Federation to help out in the war. But that plot strand seemed to be quickly forgotten. The D'Kora class Ferengi Marauders seen in TNG were pretty tough, with Ferengi space so close in Cardassian/Dominion territory it would seem they should have considered it when the war was going badly.

Any other suggestions?

I have wondered why thsy never mentioned this again. It would have been cool seeing some Feregini ships helping out. Convincing them may have been hard. Ferengi usually work only for profit. Though a good argument would be, with the Federation, the Klingons and the Romulans gone, profit will be WAY down.

 

[HRHTheKING]

I could just imagine the Children Of Tama getting involved.

Tamarian Captain: Dolok at Shuva....His Fist Shaking.....Tova At Dano...His Eyes Open.

Tamarian Commander: Dolok...And Tova!!!! Their Sails Unfurled!!!!


-BOOM!!!!!-

-Tamarian ship is blown up by Jem Hadar suicide attack-

 

[Cyke101]

Also wasn't there a thing in DS9: "Valiant" that Nog was on his way to Fereginar to present the Nagus with a proposition from the Federation to help out in the war. But that plot strand seemed to be quickly forgotten. The D'Kora class Ferengi Marauders seen in TNG were pretty tough, with Ferengi space so close in Cardassian/Dominion territory it would seem they should have considered it when the war was going badly.

Any other suggestions?

I have wondered why thsy never mentioned this again. It would have been cool seeing some Feregini ships helping out. Convincing them may have been hard. Ferengi usually work only for profit. Though a good argument would be, with the Federation, the Klingons and the Romulans gone, profit will be WAY down.

I want to say that from a narrative standpoint, the alliance represented the three most popular forces Star Trek has: the Federation, the Klingons, and the Romulans. Since all three of those powers have been at each other's throats in various ways for thirty years, it was something of a unification on a large scale.

If the Dominion War was written with more focus towards accurate presentation of war and politics, then most likely the Ferengi and other powers would get in on the action and play much more prominent roles.

 

[Haytil]

I have wondered why thsy never mentioned this again. It would have been cool seeing some Feregini ships helping out. Convincing them may have been hard. Ferengi usually work only for profit. Though a good argument would be, with the Federation, the Klingons and the Romulans gone, profit will be WAY down.

The Ferengi would likely have offered some ships in exchange for some lucrative trade agreements and access to new markets (less restrictions on imports/exports, lower shipping rates, etc.). Given the fact that they were facing difficulties, it's likely that the Alliance members would've agreed to their terms.

We know that D'Koras are commanded by Daimons who are, at best, loosely connected to the Ferengi authority. They seem to be more individual and entrepeneurial - given a wide berth to seek profit in their own way. So if the Nagus worked out an agreement with the Alliance, they probably cut in each Daimon who participated in a large chunk of the profit in order to get them to risk their necks.

In essence, I wouldn't be surprised if the Alliance tried to contract the Nagus into commissioning some of his Daimons as privateers.

 

[Ethros]

You would have thought though that when Rom became Grand Nagus in "Dogs of War", he would have sent some Ferengi warships to help out in the Alliance's final push into Cardassia in "What You Leave Behind"

Obviously the real reason is the time & money factor of the TV show, but I'm just saying

 

[dave_R_treker]

You would have thought though that when Rom became Grand Nagus in "Dogs of War", he would have sent some Ferengi warships to help out in the Alliance's final push into Cardassia in "What You Leave Behind"

Obviously the real reason is the time & money factor of the TV show, but I'm just saying

He may not have had total power to send the ships either. It may have taken a congressonal or senate type approval to do so.

 

[captcalhoun]

^ especially given what Brunt and Quark discuss of Zek's reforms in "Dogs of War"...

IE there's a congress of economic advisors who approve legislation

 

[Timo]

Also, the Ferengi might have been of more use as pseudo-neutral partners who could mediate between the Alpha defensive alliance and the Gamma invaders. Sort of like WWII Spain which, despite fascist leanings, was more useful to both Hitler and the Allies as an intermediator and a buffer.

After all, the Ferengi had good, continuous intelligence on the Dominion where Starfleet seemed to have none, and maintained ties with Gamma partners right until the wormhole closed for good. Yet onscreen maps and references indicated that Ferengi home turf was periliously close to the Dominion stronghold at Cardassia, and might have fallen in a day if the Nagus or the forces behind or above him had decided in favor of the use of weapons.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[RoJoHen]

I want to know what the Pakleds were up to during the war.

 

[Timo]

Key strategists, obviously. Why, it was one of their clever analysts who figured out that the Dominion wanted the Kabrel system for "things that make their soldiers go", quite independently of the parallel work of the Jack Pack.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[MeanJoePhaser]

How about the Dominion offering more advanced tech to say, the Talarians, in exchange for alliance.

Of course, that's not as feasable when the Domion is cut off from Gamma Quadrant. Why waste resources needed for the main force on backwards yokels.

 

[Marie1]

The Gorn vs. the Jem'Hadar would have been really something... especially hand-to-hand... wow.

 

[Ethros]

Didn't the Talarians have seriously low tech compared to Starfleet? I wonder how they were a threat in the 2350's?


Also on the subject of the Dominion War, I wonder if the Breen were tricked/convinced into joining by a changeling infiltrator (like Martok with the Klingons) seen as there was a Breen on Internment Camp 371

 

[Sci]

Didn't the Talarians have seriously low tech compared to Starfleet? I wonder how they were a threat in the 2350's?

I don't know. Doesn't al Qaeda have seriously low tech compared to the United States Armed Forces? How are they a threat in the 2000s?

Also on the subject of the Dominion War, I wonder if the Breen were tricked/convinced into joining by a changeling infiltrator (like Martok with the Klingons) seen as there was a Breen on Internment Camp 371

An interesting possibility. It would go a long way towards explaining why the Allies didn't feel obligated to launch the same sort of invasion into Breen space that they did into Cardassian space.