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What if Voyager was Enterprise

Infern0

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I was thinking the other day, what if instead of the Intrepid Class USS Voyager had not been sent after the Maquis ship. What if instead they were being persued by the USS Enterprise E under Jean Luc Picard!!!
How do you think the journey home would have been different? With the additional firepower of the Soverign class vessel, the additional resources and manpower and the different command style of Picard what do you think the trip would have been like?
Personally I think the first two years would have been a lot different, with the Kazon being repeatedly stomped into the Dirt by the Enterprise E (Which is no less than those second rate, fake Klingons deserve), also I don't see Riker, Geordi, Crusher etc being killed so it would be interesting to see how the maquis crew is used. And what would Data get up to on the days when the crew is being probed on the caretaker array?
I know there's an issue with times here but it's only about a year, so i'm just ignoring that for the purposes of this question. Im talking about this in universe by the way, not how the tv show would have been different.
 
Why wouldn't Riker, Geordi and Crusher not die? Riker would have been standing by Data with his crotch in his face. He would had about the same distance to run to his chair as Cavit did. We don't know anything about how the original Chief Engineer or the CMO died, but there's no reason to think they wouldn't have been killed. For all we know, Picard would have been killed.
 
Why wouldn't Riker, Geordi and Crusher not die? Riker would have been standing by Data with his crotch in his face. He would had about the same distance to run to his chair as Cavit did. We don't know anything about how the original Chief Engineer or the CMO died, but there's no reason to think they wouldn't have been killed. For all we know, Picard would have been killed.

It doesn't really matter if they do or dont, as I said surely the enterprise would take more of a pounding than voyager and therefore be safer to be on when it was sucked over.
 
The Ent-D may have been better in that it was a large ship with more room and designed for extended exploratory missions. That said, in terms of surviabilty the E-E was more advanced obviously and would have more suited to the dangers of the Delta quadrant.
 
I think Picard would have been more rigidly bound to the Prime Directive than Janeway was. The trip would have taken twice as long under his command.
 
1) How could it have been the Enterprise E since it didn't enter service until a year after Voyager went missing?

2) Regardless, I'm pretty sure someone on Starfleet's flagship would have found a way to destroy the Caretaker's array after it sent the ship back to the Alpha Quadrant. Either by activating the array's self-destruct or leaving behind a few photon torpedoes on a timed detonation. Why Janeway or anyone else on Voyager never thought of that has often bothered me.
 
Picard would have had his crew home by the end of the pilot.
Any competent captain would have. Set a bomb on the Caretaker's array, and stay behind to make sure it goes off once your people have gone back through. Could have made a neat miniseries.
 
I was thinking the other day, what if instead of the Intrepid Class USS Voyager had not been sent after the Maquis ship. What if instead they were being persued by the USS Enterprise E under Jean Luc Picard!!!
How do you think the journey home would have been different? With the additional firepower of the Soverign class vessel, the additional resources and manpower and the different command style of Picard what do you think the trip would have been like?
Personally I think the first two years would have been a lot different, with the Kazon being repeatedly stomped into the Dirt by the Enterprise E (Which is no less than those second rate, fake Klingons deserve), also I don't see Riker, Geordi, Crusher etc being killed so it would be interesting to see how the maquis crew is used. And what would Data get up to on the days when the crew is being probed on the caretaker array?
I know there's an issue with times here but it's only about a year, so i'm just ignoring that for the purposes of this question. Im talking about this in universe by the way, not how the tv show would have been different.

Forget all that.. what if Enterprise was Voyager..

Captain Archer and all get lost in deep space.. would be sick.. plus would keep all the arseholes from complaining about continuity and stuff. not that it matters cos Enterprise was superior to all the other Star Trek shows..
 
Picard would have had his crew home by the end of the pilot.
Any competent captain would have. Set a bomb on the Caretaker's array, and stay behind to make sure it goes off once your people have gone back through. Could have made a neat miniseries.

Using the Array to go back was NEVER a viable option. Being brought there killed lots of people and damaged the ship, going back would have done the same thing.
 
Picard would have had his crew home by the end of the pilot.
Any competent captain would have. Set a bomb on the Caretaker's array, and stay behind to make sure it goes off once your people have gone back through. Could have made a neat miniseries.

Using the Array to go back was NEVER a viable option. Being brought there killed lots of people and damaged the ship, going back would have done the same thing.


Actually, Neelix said that he'd been observing the Caretaker sending all the ships he brought back to where they came, so either the return trip wasn't so bad, or the Caretaker was a douche and didn't care about killing people.
 
I think Picard would have been more rigidly bound to the Prime Directive than Janeway was. The trip would have taken twice as long under his command.

i agree. The other major problem (and general annoyance) would be that Riker would be part of the series. Can you imagine being stuck with his obnoxious and arrogant outbursts and his ridiculous mountain-man stance when he puts his leg up on all manner of bridge equipment?

I watched the series finale of TNG last week and was shocked at the level of arrogance that pervaded everything he did - shouting disagreements with Picard in front of the senior staff, refusing to assist his former captain (yeah in the end he helped but was nearly kicking a screaming) and his childish jealous of the Worf/Deanna relationship. In a word - a jerk. Riker in the delta quadrant would almost guarantee the failure of the mission and destruction of the crew and ship.
 
I think Picard would have been more rigidly bound to the Prime Directive than Janeway was. The trip would have taken twice as long under his command.

i agree. The other major problem (and general annoyance) would be that Riker would be part of the series. Can you imagine being stuck with his obnoxious and arrogant outbursts and his ridiculous mountain-man stance when he puts his leg up on all manner of bridge equipment?

LOL :guffaw: Don't forget the way he turns corners and walks through doors by leading with his head at a 15 degree angle.

I pretty sure Picard would have the crew home fairly quickly. Someone on that ship would offer to stay behind in a shuttle to make sure the array was destroyed. They're a noble sort :p

What would be more interesting is if Sisko, et al. were stuck in the Delta Quadrant. I'm pretty sure The Sisko would punch adversity in the face like everyone he met was Eddington or Dukat. Plus, y'know, the Defiant's got a cloak and quantum torpedoes, it'd be more suited to hit n run raids for supplies and going long periods without encountering anyone... Anyway, back on topic... ;)
 
But would the Defiant hold up better at being stuck away from Starbase support for such a long time? I know the Ent-E would, but a "true warship"?
 
But would the Defiant hold up better at being stuck away from Starbase support for such a long time? I know the Ent-E would, but a "true warship"?

Hmm, I didn't really consider that. Being a smaller ship with fewer requirements, such as keeping the crew comfortable and happy, fewer power hungry systems such as labs, etc, I'd assume it could function on long term assignments (á la Valiant). Then again, being a small ship with fewer capabilities outside of tactical (eg smaller cargo bays, fewer support craft, no real research labs/dedicated astrometrics lab), that could work against it... I don't know!

I should've thought this through, eh? :p
 
I think if a smaller ship without any luxuries like a holodeck or mess hall like the Defiant, the crew would have gone nuts before 7 years. Such cramped quarters and stuff.
 
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