DS9 rising appreciation

[McCoy]

^ I would generally agree with saying that Trek is essentially represented by TOS/TNG. I don't think DS9 is widely appreciated beyond Trek fans. Each successive show had a smaller and smaller core audience. To the general public, Trek = TOS. No other characters from any series have made it into the cultural lexicon like Kirk and Spock.

 

[Marie1]

Personally I haven't seen a marked increase in appreciation of the show from the people that I know. Though the church talky guy at my brother's church referenced the Jem'Hadar in his speech. His main focus was their motto, "Victory is life."

... are you serious???

 

[superstring01]

This may not be an accurate observation but recently more people seem to be appreciating DS9.
For instance up until a few years ago whenever I mentioned Star Trek either to friends or work colleagues etc some new TOS and TNG but when I mentioned DS9, I got blank faces and 'it can't be as good' s.

but recently I have had a work colleague ask to borrow DS9 on DVD, he has worked through 5 seasons in the last couple of months. When I went to buy 'these haunted seas from the bookshop' I got into a discussion with the assistant who had just started getting into DS9 and was enjoying it.
There have been a few more examples of this recently.

Is it just me???

I have a dear friend who has always looked at scifi as a bit of a joke and suffice it to say, she could do little more than laugh at the thought of people watching Star Trek. One day while she was over my house, I was watching an arc episode (of DS9) towards the end of season seven, she started asking all these intriguing questions. A few weeks later (after the series has "reset" to the beginning) she had some more "technical" questions ("...so how do all the aliens communicate?" "how fast is this warp stuff?") and whatnot. A month later and, to my surprise, all she could do is chatter on about the show.

People are subject to the scrutiny and influences of our fickle society, but when given the opportunity to break free of that pretentiousness for just as moment and see a dramatic character driven story like DS9, they actually realize that there are "things" they can see that just cannot be portrayed in modern or classical settings.

I had a similar effect on my anti-scifi step-mother (whom I adore) on the subject of Babylon 5. She now loves the show and watches it whenever it's on SciFi.

~String

 

[EEE]

Well, DS9 simply is the best Trek of all, the most multidimensional, also the least Trek-like - no trekking: space station, with, instead, the serious, continuing topics of ongoing war and diplomacy, espionnage, etc., etc.

While, I think that DS9 is the second best Trek. I think the fact that it was the least Trek-like ("to boldly sit? ...wtf?" - Me in '93), actually made it the most Trek-like. It broke new Trek ground in an entertaining, thought provoking, well written, well acted, and exciting way. Even the underlying premise was real Trek... where TOS was designed as "wagon train to the stars," DS9 was literally designed as "the rifleman in space." Both did things that hadn't been done before. On many levels. And my favorite item is that at the end of TOS and DS9, I felt I knew the characters. I never got that from any of the other incarnations.

Please note: I'm an original-airing TOS fan who didn't give DS9 a fair shot until last year (yes another "great deal" on DVD's situation/history)

 

[psikeyhackr]

Can ANYONE explain this to me. I'm not a Star Trek fan. I can't stand what few episodes I've seen of TOS,TNG,VOY and ENT but I ADORE, simply ADORE DS9. I got into it purely by accident (it was on when I was waiting for one of my friends to get ready to go out and thought WOW).

JMS, who created Babylon 5, pitched the series to Paramount who supposedly didn't bite.

But it is so curious that in an episode of DS9 Quark got branded on the forehead by Bajoran extremists and a Minbari poet got branded on the forehead by human extremists.

Since DS9 is such a good series I personally don't really care who stole what from who but I think Paramount should drop a few hundred grand on JMS at least. That explains why DS9 is so unTreklike however.

Good episodes of TOS are:

City on the Edge of Forever
Mirror, Mirror
Balance of Terror
Amok Time - Theodore Sturgeon
Shore Leave - Theodore Sturgeon
Doomsday Machine

It was good by the standards of the 60s but standards have changed fortunately and unfortunately. The entire basis of Battlestar Galactica seems absurd to me. I haven't watched it since the premier.

psik

 

[Marie1]

Good episodes of TOS are:

City on the Edge of Forever
Mirror, Mirror
Balance of Terror
Amok Time - Theodore Sturgeon
Shore Leave - Theodore Sturgeon
Doomsday Machine


psik

What about Devil in the Dark...? Haha... giant pizza...