I liked Distant Voices. Yes, 'it was all a dream' but at least they were upfront about it.
And besides, the Lethean make-up is all around awesome.
The one episode I would delete from the canon...
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I liked Distant Voices. Yes, 'it was all a dream' but at least they were upfront about it.
And besides, the Lethean make-up is all around awesome.
I bought that on Paramount vhs... yes, vhs... I didn't really remember it before, but I watched it and it held by interest, esp. the conversation with the Lethean. Oh, and the actually cassette from Paramount- garbage. Esp. for how much I'm sure they used to charge. Then again, they're more costly to produce than DVDs...
I thought it was a good ep, too, as was "Melora". The one episode that should never have been made was "Doctor Bashir, I Presume", for the horrible continuity violations, particularly in regard to the other two, as they completely changed his background story. It didn't really fit with what was learned about him in the previous 2 eps, as well as a few others in the series.
"Wrongs Darker..." for me. I remember when I saw it first-run. I thought, "What the hell is the point of all this?" And I was always a sucker for a good Dukat story. Even I couldn't stomach that wretched episode.
If I had a choice to delete a particular kind of episode, though, I'd get rid of the Ferengi ones. No question.
If I had a choice to delete a particular kind of episode, though, I'd get rid of the Ferengi ones. No question.
Odd...I never had any trouble with that one--I really liked it.
And "Melora"...I wouldn't call it impressive by any stretch of the imagination, but I do think it gets more trashing than it deserves, considering there are much bigger stinkers out there. I can at least WATCH the thing straight through.
"Hard Time" is my least favorite episode of DS9. O'Brien is a great character under adversity, but pushing him to the brink of suicide was a little too much for me. It's almost the anti-"The Inner Light" because O'Brien's experience is so unpleasant. Even if the episode had been followed up, that's not a direction I want the character to go.
I agree for the most part. I wouldn't mind if Melora got scratched off the asset list though, because I never watch it. It's soooo boring!
I third Hard Time. I think the episode is good, but doesn't fit in with the rest and with the direction O'Brien's character takes. So if I wanted to erase one off Trek lore, it would probably be that one.
If it had ended differently, I may not agree...
Well... maybe I would...
Lets all visit the alternate time line where she does and see how it looks...
I can see what the OP is saying and I do agree that Picard & O'Brien shouldn't have gotten over the events of The Inner Light and Hard Times nearly as quickly as they did. There should have been lasting effects.
Not sure that they are the episodes I'd delete from canon as, let's face it, we are required to set aside ALOT just to enjoy scifi at all!
But I do agree with the premise that these effects of these episodes should have been more lasting on the characters they involved.
Not sure that they are the episodes I'd delete from canon as, let's face it, we are required to set aside ALOT just to enjoy scifi at all!
But I do agree with the premise that these effects of these episodes should have been more lasting on the characters they involved.
from TNG- shades of grey- that was the moment I said that if any show ever does a clip episode again I will turn it off without even entertaining it- the only star trek episode that I have never seen more than once.
What would happen if we took the B-Plot of Meridian... and moved it to another episode... maybe to help another not as annoying episode, and just got rid of the A plot of Meridian? I watched it again today- for whatisname (Jeff Combs) and I must say, even after all that time, it was pretty terrible. You can't just wander off with a symbiont for 60 years... for crying out loud! That shouldn't have happened... and why was she in the transporter for 6 hours? I thought it was dangerous to be held in the buffer for more than 6 minutes.
i would delete "One Little Ship"
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What? Its one of the greatest DS9 episodes ever! It almost won an academy award! It had everything- interesting ideas, conflict, humour, great Jem'Hadar episode- and showed what the Dominion was up to- gave us a look at the enemy- helped us see they're as complex as any humanoid out there, there was difficult problem to get out of... a tiny runabout!!! Whats not to like??? :O
I agree...it was funny, and yet it worked.
I agree with the original poster, in that "Hard Time" is the one most worth being taken out due to having such lasting effects that weren't followed up on.
Though if I had to choose a worst episode ever... it'd be "Take Me Out To The Holosuite." This episode, to me, is the worst episode of all Star Trek. Worse than "Threshold" and worse than "These are the Voyages."
Though if I had to choose a worst episode ever... it'd be "Take Me Out To The Holosuite." This episode, to me, is the worst episode of all Star Trek. Worse than "Threshold" and worse than "These are the Voyages."
It also knew the premise of 'Honey, we shrunk the runabout!' was too silly to actually be taken seriously, so it never does that. The only downside in the episode I found was that the Alpha vs. Gamma Jem'Hadar conflict is never brought up again.
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I never cared for HARD TIME.
The aliens with a unique punishment plot device so that we can torture O'Brien and never mention it again.
Trek putting a character through some shit based on an idea that will likely not be mentioned again. Voyager was full of disposable mindfuck morality plays like that. (Ohh, the trauma inducing war memorial...ooh...the planet where violent thoughts are a crime...)
The aliens with a unique punishment plot device so that we can torture O'Brien and never mention it again.
Trek putting a character through some shit based on an idea that will likely not be mentioned again. Voyager was full of disposable mindfuck morality plays like that. (Ohh, the trauma inducing war memorial...ooh...the planet where violent thoughts are a crime...)
is that not the majority of trek?
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