Would You Watch a Trek Series with an all male, all human main cast?
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Dayton3:
While I don't entirely agree with this view, I have had similar experiences myself at times dealing with female coworkers. The ones I've worked with seem to hold grudges longer than male coworkers. It could be how some women are "acculturated" to do battle via sarcastic comments and gossip. And if any of you met me, you would know there isn't an overt sexist bone in my body, particularly in the confines of the workplace.
Having said that, I still echo my earlier comments that an all-male, all-human main cast would be boring. They almost did that with ENT, and look how well that worked! Only Phlox and T'Pol were aliens, and the rest of the cast were humans. ENT, along with TOS, had the highest ratio of males to females in the main cast than the other shows.
Red Ranger
Were you abused by a female authority figure as a child or something? I mean, seriously, sexist much?During my time in the military, most of my direct superiors were female and I certainly never had a problem with it, nor did anyone else I know.
No.
Though my father, mother, and three sisters all feel the same way.
All of them loathe working with women.
The big thing is
male coworkers are shallow. There isn't much debt to their emotions and personalities.
You and a male coworker have a disagreement, buy him a coke in the breakroom an hour later and generally all is right with the world.
Female coworkers (in general) are not like that. If you have a disagreement with a female coworker it can last for days and take all sorts of efforts to return things to normal.
Dayton3:
While I don't entirely agree with this view, I have had similar experiences myself at times dealing with female coworkers. The ones I've worked with seem to hold grudges longer than male coworkers. It could be how some women are "acculturated" to do battle via sarcastic comments and gossip. And if any of you met me, you would know there isn't an overt sexist bone in my body, particularly in the confines of the workplace.
Having said that, I still echo my earlier comments that an all-male, all-human main cast would be boring. They almost did that with ENT, and look how well that worked! Only Phlox and T'Pol were aliens, and the rest of the cast were humans. ENT, along with TOS, had the highest ratio of males to females in the main cast than the other shows.
Red Ranger
Re: Would You Watch a Trek Series with an all male, all human main cas
However, you are correct that it can be an extremely bad idea to make an enemy of a woman. Really depends on who you are dealing with. I find it easier to figure out which guys are the jerkwad types, because they are often very arrogant, stupid and lazy, and therefore unable to put on a good act, but some women are extremely adept at hiding it, and you don't know till it's too late.
And since we're talking about Star Trek, I assume the characters are not going to be revolting, petty-minded, scheming, back-biting assholes but rather shining examples of the best and brightest of the Federation.
Therefore this entire thread is based on a wholly erroneous premise.
I envy you for having what sounds like a pretty good workplace environment compared with those I've experienced. I've worked with plenty of guys who were the biggest Machiavellian schemers you ever met, who would hold grudges for eons, and whose entire motivation in coming to work is to see how many people they could screw over that day.
However, you are correct that it can be an extremely bad idea to make an enemy of a woman. Really depends on who you are dealing with. I find it easier to figure out which guys are the jerkwad types, because they are often very arrogant, stupid and lazy, and therefore unable to put on a good act, but some women are extremely adept at hiding it, and you don't know till it's too late.
And since we're talking about Star Trek, I assume the characters are not going to be revolting, petty-minded, scheming, back-biting assholes but rather shining examples of the best and brightest of the Federation.
Therefore this entire thread is based on a wholly erroneous premise.
Re: Would You Watch a Trek Series with an all male, all human main cas
^There's also the fact that we've already had a Star Trek show with an all male and almost all human (okay, 5/6ths) cast - it's called TOS.
Now, some of you will be thinking what about Uhura ? She wasn't a regular cast member, nor were Chekov, Scotty or Sulu. Only Shatner, Kelley and Nimoy were.
^There's also the fact that we've already had a Star Trek show with an all male and almost all human (okay, 5/6ths) cast - it's called TOS.
Now, some of you will be thinking what about Uhura ? She wasn't a regular cast member, nor were Chekov, Scotty or Sulu. Only Shatner, Kelley and Nimoy were.
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Complete and utter bullshit.
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Is it, really? I don't subscribe entirely to Dayton3's premise, but I have to tell you from personal experience, there is, in general, a difference with how men and women interact in the workplace.
Granted, there are women who approach workplace disputes professionally, and men who completely personalize all their workplace interactions to their detriment and to the detriment of those around them.
Unfortunately, many of my experiences with female coworkers have been characterized by high levels of making workplace issues personal and not professional. This has also been true of most of the female supervisors I've had to deal with -- any disagreement, no matter how trivial, becomes a jihad!
Again, I believe men and women belong in the workplace, but if some men need sensitivity training in dealing with all coworkers, so do some women. Especially the petty, bickering types I've had the misfortune of encountering. Then again, I worked in the media, and that environment seems to breed a work pool of shallow, egocentric people, of all political persuasions and genders, mind you!
Red Ranger
Complete and utter bullshit.
Is it, really? I don't subscribe entirely to Dayton3's premise, but I have to tell you from personal experience, there is, in general, a difference with how men and women interact in the workplace.
Granted, there are women who approach workplace disputes professionally, and men who completely personalize all their workplace interactions to their detriment and to the detriment of those around them.
Unfortunately, many of my experiences with female coworkers have been characterized by high levels of making workplace issues personal and not professional. This has also been true of most of the female supervisors I've had to deal with -- any disagreement, no matter how trivial, becomes a jihad!
Again, I believe men and women belong in the workplace, but if some men need sensitivity training in dealing with all coworkers, so do some women. Especially the petty, bickering types I've had the misfortune of encountering. Then again, I worked in the media, and that environment seems to breed a work pool of shallow, egocentric people, of all political persuasions and genders, mind you!
Red Ranger
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Make-up? What do you mean? I thought Star Trek was real
Make-up? What do you mean? I thought Star Trek was real
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The worst person BY FAR!!!! at my current place of employment, which is mostly female, is this one male person who sadly is also the boss. He's a fucking bipolar headcase who's driven away many, many good employees. Everyone else there is great. If only we could get together and push the fucktard off the Golden Gate Bridge.
This is great, can we turn this into the Bitch About Your Psycho Co-Workers or Bosses thread?
Complete and utter bullshit.
The worst person BY FAR!!!! at my current place of employment, which is mostly female, is this one male person who sadly is also the boss.
He's a fucking bipolar headcase who's driven away many, many good employees. Everyone else there is great. If only we could get together and push the fucktard off the Golden Gate Bridge.This is great, can we turn this into the Bitch About Your Psycho Co-Workers or Bosses thread?
Re: Would You Watch a Trek Series with an all male, all human main cas
What rule? You seem to be confusing your own misogyny with some sort of unwritten rule of human nature.
What rule? You seem to be confusing your own misogyny with some sort of unwritten rule of human nature.
Re: Would You Watch a Trek Series with an all male, all human main cas
It isn't misogyny to not want to work with women.
It isn't misogyny to not want to work with women.
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An all male crew would go against that idea, and it would also be somewhat sexist.
I always found it easier to not get close to anyone at work. My biggest saying when I have a disagreement at work with someone Male or Female is "I never asked you to like me now did I." Kinda kills any grudges right away because they have to take a second to think about it.
No,. Trek's main message is about people of all genders and races working together to create a peaceful future.
An all male crew would go against that idea, and it would also be somewhat sexist.
I always found it easier to not get close to anyone at work. My biggest saying when I have a disagreement at work with someone Male or Female is "I never asked you to like me now did I." Kinda kills any grudges right away because they have to take a second to think about it.
Captain X
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Actually, yes it is. Misogyny is defined as the hatred or contempt of women. I'd say what you said about women in the workplace displays a contempt of women.
Actually, yes it is. Misogyny is defined as the hatred or contempt of women. I'd say what you said about women in the workplace displays a contempt of women.
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That is ridiculous.
I don't like to work with teenagers either.
What does that make me? Ageist?
That is ridiculous.
I don't like to work with teenagers either.
What does that make me? Ageist?
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Would You Watch a Trek Series with an all male, all human main cast?
Maybe. Because I like men. But I'm not crazy about men among themselves.
They don't behave any more.
Every episode would be about missing women and meeting them and so on and so forth. It would become distracting for them. Instead of focusing on their job, they would focus on the (alien) women they encounter.
Besides, if women hold a grudge longer, it might be because it is founded. Or because the man didn't make good. A man is less likely than a woman to acknowledge a mistake. He must save face and WIN everything. This might be stereotypical, but it's true.
Would You Watch a Trek Series with an all male, all human main cast?
Maybe. Because I like men. But I'm not crazy about men among themselves.
They don't behave any more.
Every episode would be about missing women and meeting them and so on and so forth. It would become distracting for them. Instead of focusing on their job, they would focus on the (alien) women they encounter.
What is it, then?
Besides, if women hold a grudge longer, it might be because it is founded. Or because the man didn't make good. A man is less likely than a woman to acknowledge a mistake. He must save face and WIN everything. This might be stereotypical, but it's true.
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Personal preference
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