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The bridge shots (large images)

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Well, that's Uhura standing at it and it's referred to over at mtv.com as the "Communications desk." So it's probably her permanent station.
Since it's clearly not Uhura, however, we can't really make that assumption. Even Lindelof acknowledges her:
- While Lindelof said the “red shirt” crew member we see in the photo isn’t significant herself, fans can make some predictions about other crew members wearing that fateful color.
I sincerely doubt he was referring to anyone other than the obvious, fully-visible "her" in red. Uhura is unlikely to be "insignificant"; besides, she's far too white to be Zoë Saldana.
 
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I sincerely doubt he was referring to anyone other than the obvious, fully-visible "her" in red. Uhura is unlikely to be "insignificant"; besides, she's far too white to be Zoë Saldana.

Maybe the redskirt gets axed and Starfleet decides the hostess podium and the glass are a bad idea and lose them after the ship gets fixed?
 
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Anyways, looking at the photo of the cast in front of the viewer, I could have sworn for a second that it was freestanding as opposed to being built into a wall. Anyone else see this or am I blind as a bat?
I see what you mean, I think, but I'm not certain it's not just a trick of the eye involving some of the other structural stuff in that shot. It's hard to gauge the depth with any accuracy.
 
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My first impression: Too bright, too busy.

... but it does look like the command center of a ship. Don't know that we can confidently say that about many of the bridges in Trek.
 
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One thing about this bridge: it does look like a natural progression from the NX-01.

Unfortunately it does.

On the other hand, maybe this is the bridge that the enterprise is because of the Romulans changing history. Or maybe the original series was what we saw as a result of the change...

Regardless, it seems obvious from the time travel information that we have been given, that some changes would be evident as a result. And I suspect that JJ is bright enough to make those changes obvious to the viewer.

My head hurts from thinking about it all. Damned time travel stories!

I'll be amazed if changes to the bridge are because of time travel and that's communicated to the audience. I think the changes to the bridge are design choices and that's it.
 
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My biggest issue with the design is the brightness and the glaring contrast between the bulkheads and the displays. I think they did try to keep it close to the original, but Abrams wanted to "outgeek the Apple store" and ended up too garish. The little lights along the rear display seem superfluous and cheapen the set somewhat. Hopefully, it'll be adjusted in post, but white = new thing really isn't my cup of tea.

The yeoman's station also seems to block the captain's ability to see what everyone is doing, which was a key feature of the original bridge design. Then again, Kirk might be able to call up whatever a person is looking at through his chair panels, so that might make sense.

I really hope all the chairs have seat belts. I'm tired of seeing everyone get flung about the room (Hey! Maybe that's what happens to the redskirt chick!)
 
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I really like it, though I understand now what James Cawley meant when he said "[the bridge is] not what I would have done."

It does look like a plausible futuristic command centre of a ship, but having said that I think that in 40 years time it will probably look as dated as the original bridge looks today.
 
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Not sure if it were mentioned or not but this does seem to be a homage to the way 'Enterprise' had there tech at realistic levels vs. reflecting and being more primitave then TOS tech. I can see this bridge acually steming from 100 years of lineage from the Enterprise NX bridge.
 
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Not a fan of the yeoman's podium or of the giant isolinear chips standing around on the bridge like 2001 monoliths. Otherwise, quite intrigued. Can't wait to spend some time on the bridge during the film, seeing it from different angles, really getting a feel for it. Love the new Captain's chair, which really harks back without looking retro.

Is Jim's chair not centered?
 
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Not sure if it were mentioned or not but this does seem to be a homage to the way 'Enterprise' had there tech at realistic levels vs. reflecting and being more primitave then TOS tech. I can see this bridge acually steming from 100 years of lineage from the Enterprise NX bridge.


I'll be amazed if they took into account a show that was a creative and rating failure.
 
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I don't even know if I want to wade in to this.

If this bridge is indeed the Enterprise's bridge, then I am disappointed. I like the look of everything else so far, including Spock's out of context picture... It is too white, and too glassey looking. I would have prefered the overall essence of the original bridge, updated with new readout screens and data input controls on a bacground similar to the original. The lighting, chairs, flooring, and constructions materials could be updated to look more modern (futuristic).

In other words, I like the clean simplistic layout of the original, and would have liked to see that transfered and updated- not unlike how the uniforms were changed. Enough to make them look more dramatic based on our contemporary views, but similar enough to be very easily recognizable.

All and all, I am pleased so far, and will get over the bridge design.

But here's the thing the Bridge of a naval ship is busy. It's the CNC center of the entire ship so it looks busy and cluttered. The bridge on TOS looked roomy as if there wasn't the daily operations of the ship going on. You got one Yeoman comeing in with a clipboard once a show to hand to Kirk for him to sign. This bridge is acceptable to me because it has life to it..

BTW how can Kirk be in morning over his father when the Kelvin was supposedly attacked according to the article....
Before Kirk was Born
 
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Maybe he isn't in mourning. Now that I read these articles, it look more like Kirk is still officially a cadet - all the others having achieved at least junior officer status. The Kobayashi Maru stunt held him back, maybe.
 
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I don't even know if I want to wade in to this.

If this bridge is indeed the Enterprise's bridge, then I am disappointed. I like the look of everything else so far, including Spock's out of context picture... It is too white, and too glassey looking. I would have prefered the overall essence of the original bridge, updated with new readout screens and data input controls on a bacground similar to the original. The lighting, chairs, flooring, and constructions materials could be updated to look more modern (futuristic).

In other words, I like the clean simplistic layout of the original, and would have liked to see that transfered and updated- not unlike how the uniforms were changed. Enough to make them look more dramatic based on our contemporary views, but similar enough to be very easily recognizable.

All and all, I am pleased so far, and will get over the bridge design.

But here's the thing the Bridge of a naval ship is busy. It's the CNC center of the entire ship so it looks busy and cluttered. The bridge on TOS looked roomy as if there wasn't the daily operations of the ship going on. You got one Yeoman comeing in with a clipboard once a show to hand to Kirk for him to sign. This bridge is acceptable to me because it has life to it..

BTW how can Kirk be in morning over his father when the Kelvin was supposedly attacked according to the article....
Before Kirk was Born

That mourning thing was pure speculation by that poster. I have read that the black uniform is a cadet uniform. But who knows?
 
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Maybe he isn't in mourning. Now that I read these articles, it look more like Kirk is still officially a cadet - all the others having achieved at least junior officer status. The Kobayashi Maru stunt held him back, maybe.

Kirk as a cadet, I can't buy. Kirk as a post-graduate Command School student, that's possible. I just don't think the crew is fresh out of the Academy. I can accept that they're at a point before WNMHGB, but not just out of the Academy.

Even if it is a reboot, they're clearly keeping some aspects from TOS, so I can't imagine why the story would need the entire command crew to be from the same Academy class. It just doesn't make sense to me.

I see rank braids on McCoy's sleeves, and Scotty and Sulu's, too. It looks like McCoy has the 1 1/2 braids of a lieutenant commander, and that Sulu has the single braid of a lieutenant. If they're all fresh out of the Academy, they'd all be no-stripe ensigns.
 
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Maybe he isn't in mourning. Now that I read these articles, it look more like Kirk is still officially a cadet - all the others having achieved at least junior officer status. The Kobayashi Maru stunt held him back, maybe.

Kirk as a cadet, I can't buy. Kirk as a post-graduate Command School student, that's possible. I just don't think the crew is fresh out of the Academy. I can accept that they're at a point before WNMHGB, but not just out of the Academy.

Even if it is a reboot, they're clearly keeping some aspects from TOS, so I can't imagine why the story would need the entire command crew to be from the same Academy class. It just doesn't make sense to me.

I see rank braids on McCoy's sleeves, and Scotty and Sulu's, too. It looks like McCoy has the 1 1/2 braids of a lieutenant commander, and that Sulu has the single braid of a lieutenant. If they're all fresh out of the Academy, they'd all be no-stripe ensigns.
It doesn't fully make sense to me either, yet I can't think of any other logical explanation since it seems that Kirk is of lesser status than the rest of the crew, and we know the academy and the Kobayashi Maru are involved.
 
Re: The bridge shots

Maybe he isn't in mourning. Now that I read these articles, it look more like Kirk is still officially a cadet - all the others having achieved at least junior officer status. The Kobayashi Maru stunt held him back, maybe.

Kirk as a cadet, I can't buy. Kirk as a post-graduate Command School student, that's possible. I just don't think the crew is fresh out of the Academy. I can accept that they're at a point before WNMHGB, but not just out of the Academy.

Even if it is a reboot, they're clearly keeping some aspects from TOS, so I can't imagine why the story would need the entire command crew to be from the same Academy class. It just doesn't make sense to me.

I see rank braids on McCoy's sleeves, and Scotty and Sulu's, too. It looks like McCoy has the 1 1/2 braids of a lieutenant commander, and that Sulu has the single braid of a lieutenant. If they're all fresh out of the Academy, they'd all be no-stripe ensigns.
It doesn't fully make sense to me either, yet I can't think of any other logical explanation since it seems that Kirk is of lesser status than the rest of the crew, and we know the academy and the Kobayashi Maru are involved.
well people are also assuming they are part of tha sme class where this could actually just be their first misson on enterprise
 
Re: The bridge shots

Maybe he isn't in mourning. Now that I read these articles, it look more like Kirk is still officially a cadet - all the others having achieved at least junior officer status. The Kobayashi Maru stunt held him back, maybe.

Kirk as a cadet, I can't buy. Kirk as a post-graduate Command School student, that's possible. I just don't think the crew is fresh out of the Academy. I can accept that they're at a point before WNMHGB, but not just out of the Academy.

Even if it is a reboot, they're clearly keeping some aspects from TOS, so I can't imagine why the story would need the entire command crew to be from the same Academy class. It just doesn't make sense to me.

I see rank braids on McCoy's sleeves, and Scotty and Sulu's, too. It looks like McCoy has the 1 1/2 braids of a lieutenant commander, and that Sulu has the single braid of a lieutenant. If they're all fresh out of the Academy, they'd all be no-stripe ensigns.
It doesn't fully make sense to me either, yet I can't think of any other logical explanation since it seems that Kirk is of lesser status than the rest of the crew, and we know the academy and the Kobayashi Maru are involved.

Or the article made a factual error and Kirk is just wearing the black undershirt everyone has under their tunics anyways. Note that while it has the chevron, it's not a badge like all the other uniforms and the colors are fairly uniform with the shirt.
 
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I said it in another thread, I'll say it here: it looks like something out of seaQuest. The aesthetic of the uniforms doesn't match that of the bridge set.

All that would have been necessary to revamp the original design would be to update the "finishing details" a bit. The basic design looked just fine.

Not a "deal breaker" for me as for seeing the film, just a disappointment.
 
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