The Atlantis team should be shot on sight in the Pegasus Galaxy

[Kirby]

This post contains spoilers. If you haven't seen all of Atlantis through The Lost Tribe and don't want to be spoiled by anything, stop reading, m'kay?



The Atlantis expedition has done so much more damage to the human civilizations in the Pegasus Galaxy than anyone else, and I don't know why everyone else doesn't consider them public enemy #1 whenever they come around.
The only thing they had to worry about at the time they found Atlantis was an occasional Wraith culling, but since they showed up:

1. They woke up the Wraith hundreds of years early
2. They helped the Hoffans perfect their drug early which was later used against the humans of the galaxy when they created Michael.
3. The changed the Replicator's coding which caused them to start wiping out civilizations in their war with the Wraith.
4. They killed countless people, and probably some planet's only means of travel and commerce when Rodney turned on the device in that destroyed all of the Stargates.

Frankly if I was a human in the Pegasus galaxy I would shoot any Atlantis teams on site.

 

[Lior .B.]

Maybe in the last episode they will all be killed by angry mob?

 

[bullethead]

By that logic, SG-1 should be shot too, 'cause they pretty much screwed over the galaxy and lots of people's lives over the past ten years.

Honestly, if they have SG-1 overwrite the timeline ala Continuum to erase their mistakes in the next movie, I will applaud the writers for actually having some brains.

 

[Harvey]

I don't think SG-1 was ever as dumbfound-adly stupid as the Atlantis expedition has been. Except with the Ori and all that, but at least they cleaned up their mess.

 

[The Master of Tarquin Hill]

Maybe in the last episode they will all be killed by angry mob?

You mean they are going to gate into a McCain rally?

 

[DWF]

Of course had the Ancients not created the wraith in the first place the Atlantis team wouldn't had most of the problems that they created.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

But had the Atlantis team not showed up the Wraith would simply have woken up as usual and culled every planet in the Galaxy. If anything the Atlantis team did everyone a favour by waking them all up early so they'd fight each other in a civil war. Less people have likely died from waking the wraith early then would have happened had they been left alone.

 

[The Wormhole]

You know, a few years back (during S9 of SG-1), I had an idea for if they ever introduced the Furlings. I would have made the Furlings aware of Earth and its humans, having observed them for years. Taking note of how we've been screwing over the galaxy, killing one Goa'uld System Lord, making room for a worse one. Then they notice we've moved on to the Pegasus Galaxy, where we've screwed things over there, waking up the Wraith early and what not. And now we've brought the Ori down on the Milky Way. The Furlings would then decide that Earth is a problem that would have to be dealt with.

I thought it would have been cool.

 

[Jax]

But had the Atlantis team not showed up

Hindsight ey, They didn't know about the Wraith so it was a mistake and if it means the end of culling eventually then its a good thing instead of this cycle going on forever.

 

[Jono]

Spoiler: Future episode

One of the upcoming episodes sort of deals with this by having the Atlantis team captured and put on trial for crimes against the human population of Pegasus.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Spoiler: Future episode

One of the upcoming episodes sort of deals with this by having the Atlantis team captured and put on trial for crimes against the human population of Pegasus.

yes but that's different from being shot on first sight by EVERYBODY.

 

[Hermiod]

1. They woke up the Wraith hundreds of years early

By accident. They, in fact, woke up one Hive who woke everyone else up. The logic behind that decision remains a mystery given the sparsity of food that was mentioned in season two.

2. They helped the Hoffans perfect their drug early which was later used against the humans of the galaxy when they created Michael.

That's the Hoffan's fault. The SGC told them that it would kill half the people they used it on and they didn't listen. Short of invading Hoff, I don't see what else they could have done.

3. The changed the Replicator's coding which caused them to start wiping out civilizations in their war with the Wraith.

Again, a mistake. McKay only opened the door a crack, the Replicators forced open that crack.

4. They killed countless people, and probably some planet's only means of travel and commerce when Rodney turned on the device in that destroyed all of the Stargates.

While at gunpoint with no knowledge that this would be the effect. The Ancients did the exact same thing. McKay and Daniel risked their lives to undo it.

Let's balance that against the Hive Ships they have destroyed (which at least numbers in the double digits) plus the other Wraith facilities that are now gone and they destroyed the Replicators. Nobody else in the galaxy is capable of fighting the Wraith effectively.

 

[Jono]

yes but that's different from being shot on first sight by EVERYBODY.

The bulk of the galaxy would probably not know the Atlantis people from a bag of strangely addictive corn. Even if they did recognise them I doubt they would know a quarter of the things that the Atlantis folks get up to.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Yes, the hilarious incompetence of the Atlantis folks has been a source of ongoing wonderment to me. Why hasn't the IOA figured out how hideously dangerous they are?

The obvious smart move, for some time now, has been to shut the freaking Atlantis program down, destroy the Stargate or lock it out permanently, and get everyone back to Earth. There's nothing in Pegasus that is worth the mammoth security risk this program poses to Earth, even if we assume the Atlanteans are 100% on their game instead of apparently trying to get the whole human race slaughtered.

For my money, the most astounding blunders were:

1. Making Michael human without first thinking through all the possible consequences, such as, you know, failure?!? Which means they must murder a human-looking Michael. Not willing to do that? Then don't do this idiotic experiment to begin with!

2. Letting the Wraith get access to the computer system. Damn, I was screaming and throwing things at the TV because I knew long before that episode even aired that the way they were going, it was only a matter of time...

By that logic, SG-1 should be shot too, 'cause they pretty much screwed over the galaxy and lots of people's lives over the past ten years.

SG-1 at least had the excuse of an enemy that already knew the way to Earth so a bunker mentality would do no good. But if the Wraith don't know Earth exists, why take the risk that they will find out, find their way there, and be angry about various things enough to give them additional motive to find their way there?

 

[cylkoth]

1. They woke up the Wraith hundreds of years early

By accident. They, in fact, woke up one Hive who woke everyone else up.

You know, if Col Sumner had actually, listened to Teyla about not going into the creepy Ancestor city because whenever anyone entered it in the past, the Wraith showed up, instead of showing his outright seething contempt for her, her experience as a leader of her people and resident of the planet, none of this may have ever happened.

The implication was very clear, the Wraith leaves signaling devices in old abandoned cities that alert them if anyone enters. It couldn't have been coincidence that the Wraith showed up right after they searched the place.

But noooo! Big tough special forces vet was too stuck on himself to consider having the expedition sleeping in tents until a plan was devised...while gathering intel from the Athosians on the enemy that defeated the Ancients, and have more gate addresses sent to consider alternatives. If there was no signaling device tripped in the city and it really was a coincidence that the Wraith showed up, then they would've been at camp and prepared to fight and possibly not get taken-because they would have learned about the beaming scooper-upper that Wraith darts use! Or moved on to some other planet, thus having no need to attempt a rescue.

 

[David cgc]

Actually, it was revealed in "Suspicion" that the Wraith came because Shepard's gene activated Teyla's old Ancient-detecting necklace when he found it while she was showing him the illustrated history of the Pegasus galaxy. So it would've happened either way.

 

[cylkoth]

^^Oh yeah, I forgot that.
Still, if Sumner had been civil instead of contemptuous, Teyla would have shown him the cave drawings, and Sheppard would never have touched the necklace.
No Wraith waking up.

 

[Hermiod]

^Unfortunately, Sumner's orders were to find ZPMs or other power sources.

Realistically, the only thing they could have done is turned around and left having seen the state of the Athosians technology.

And then, eventually, somebody would have woken the Wraith up. Only this time, the Atlantis Expedition might not have been in a position to help fight them. At some point, the people of the Pegasus galaxy were going to have to fight back. They are in a position to do so because of the Atlantis Expedition.

A good example - eventually the Genii would have figured out the problems with their nuclear bombs. They would have, without the knowledge they gained from working with the Atlantis Expedition (and ultimately stabbing them in the back), massively underestimated the task at hand and would have pissed the Wraith off rather than destroy them. This would have woken the Wraith up, for sure, and they probably would have purged any sign of the Genii from the Galaxy - and given how many spies they have that would have affected a lot of worlds.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

The best thing to do would be to try and obtain 3 full ZPM's and then fly Atlantis back to the Milky Way, preferably to a planet that is next door to Earth so it's in range of Daedalus class ships to get there pronto, but not actually on Earth incase something happens in one of the labs and a toxin gets released or something.

 

[Brikar99]

The best thing to do would be to try and obtain 3 full ZPM's and then fly Atlantis back to the Milky Way, preferably to a planet that is next door to Earth so it's in range of Daedalus class ships to get there pronto, but not actually on Earth incase something happens in one of the labs and a toxin gets released or something.

They should get their asses to Mars.