CW preps 'Dick Grayson' series
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I can't wait to see what pretty boy with a waxed chest they cast as young Dick. 
do they expect this crap to fly? that's like making smallville without the powers or all the goings on. what are you left with? a duller version of dawson's creek or 7th heaven? i mean who really cares about robin before he became a crime fighter? >_<
they seriously passed over aquaman for this? >_< given, ving rhames in aquaman was such a mismatch like having joan rivers star in battlestar galactica. >_<
they seriously passed over aquaman for this? >_< given, ving rhames in aquaman was such a mismatch like having joan rivers star in battlestar galactica. >_<
They're not permitted. Batembargo again
so Robin before Batman ok, but Robin after Batman not?
Because no one can say that the 3 or 4 post-Nolan sequels that WB cranks out to line their pockets won't.
First off, they're going to give him powers.
An 8 year old taking out a thug in a fair fight?
C'mon!
Okay, in All Star batman, Bat's is mildly reminiscent that he might have hooked up with a psychopath after Dick got carried away and crushed Hal Jordans wind pipe, but really... If his parents are not dead he doesn't have the anger in him to bitch slap the entire cast of the Sopranoes unless he has super powers.
Second, it's going to be about his mid 20 something parents solving crime and he just gets in the way as a punk kid. Odds are they're really Homeland Security or CIA using the circus act as a front.
Third, we're going to see Wayne money and Wayne Tech/Corp/Enterprises logo's all over the place even if we never get to meet Bruce... if we see Lex Corp logos and... If this was set in Smallvilles past, they could tap Lionel and his little bald kid? And as for Oliver, he had to have learnt how to shoot somehwere and...
Fourth... Narrated by Burt Ward!
An 8 year old taking out a thug in a fair fight?
C'mon!
Okay, in All Star batman, Bat's is mildly reminiscent that he might have hooked up with a psychopath after Dick got carried away and crushed Hal Jordans wind pipe, but really... If his parents are not dead he doesn't have the anger in him to bitch slap the entire cast of the Sopranoes unless he has super powers.
Second, it's going to be about his mid 20 something parents solving crime and he just gets in the way as a punk kid. Odds are they're really Homeland Security or CIA using the circus act as a front.
Third, we're going to see Wayne money and Wayne Tech/Corp/Enterprises logo's all over the place even if we never get to meet Bruce... if we see Lex Corp logos and... If this was set in Smallvilles past, they could tap Lionel and his little bald kid? And as for Oliver, he had to have learnt how to shoot somehwere and...
Fourth... Narrated by Burt Ward!
some interesting thoughts there
For my money, the obvious way to do a Dick Grayson series is post-Batman.
Have him aged about 20, estranged from Bruce, for reasons we don't know. Despite this estrangement, Bruce has paid for him to attend university in a different city (I'm not familiar with tne Nightwing comics - presumably he's not in Gotham?) - Dick wants to pay for it himself, work through college, but on arrival, he finds, to his disgust, that 'an anonymous benefactor' has paid for his fees for the duration of his course. Although tempted to drop out on principle, after a phone conversation with Alfred (who we don't see - we just hear Dick's side of the conversation), he's persuaded to stay.
While Dick is unpacking his clothes for college, we see the Robin suit - he almost bins it, then at the last minute, crams it into some hiding place, presumably not to be seen again.
The show could also establish some new villains and old ones, of the type unlikely to appear in a Chris Nolan movie - your more fantastical ones. Probably to start off with, the traditional Bats gallery might be referenced and the show could intro some original ones. The pilot ep could introduce the main villain, some crime lord or gangster who Master Grayson ends up coming into conflict with - might there be some connection between him and the deaths of the Grayson family or between him and the estrangement between Batman and Robin? Whatever the reason, Dick ends up donning the Robin outfit and swings into action alone. However, by the end of the episode, he decides that he needs a new identity and decided to adopt the pseudonym Nightwing, for some reason which can doubtless be worked into the script. But while he's deliberating on a costume - he receives a package in the post - opens it up to find a new outfit, with a note, signed only 'B' - the rift may still be there, but is someone trying to mend it?
Dick could have a regular love interest - perhaps a rookie cop who's also studying on campus (on the short track to the DA's office, perhaps)? She's a little too old for him, but despite this is interested in this younger man who seems to have lived so much already.
I would have thought something like this is more along the lines of what CW wants. The hero is the right sort of age for their demographic (as oppose to the pre-pubescent Dick of circus days). They'd have a fixed setting, thus saving on location costs. Dick is a trained crimefighter, not a little acrobat. There would be more reason for him to come into contact with villains and the Batman rogues' gallery. I'm not saying I've reinvented the wheel here, but this sort of show could be a sort of Angel replacement, as oppose to Smallville's Clarky the Kryptonite Slayer. It's certainly much more likely to make a good Batman substitute than a pre-Batman Robin, which would at best provide enough material for a mini series.
Have him aged about 20, estranged from Bruce, for reasons we don't know. Despite this estrangement, Bruce has paid for him to attend university in a different city (I'm not familiar with tne Nightwing comics - presumably he's not in Gotham?) - Dick wants to pay for it himself, work through college, but on arrival, he finds, to his disgust, that 'an anonymous benefactor' has paid for his fees for the duration of his course. Although tempted to drop out on principle, after a phone conversation with Alfred (who we don't see - we just hear Dick's side of the conversation), he's persuaded to stay.
While Dick is unpacking his clothes for college, we see the Robin suit - he almost bins it, then at the last minute, crams it into some hiding place, presumably not to be seen again.
The show could also establish some new villains and old ones, of the type unlikely to appear in a Chris Nolan movie - your more fantastical ones. Probably to start off with, the traditional Bats gallery might be referenced and the show could intro some original ones. The pilot ep could introduce the main villain, some crime lord or gangster who Master Grayson ends up coming into conflict with - might there be some connection between him and the deaths of the Grayson family or between him and the estrangement between Batman and Robin? Whatever the reason, Dick ends up donning the Robin outfit and swings into action alone. However, by the end of the episode, he decides that he needs a new identity and decided to adopt the pseudonym Nightwing, for some reason which can doubtless be worked into the script. But while he's deliberating on a costume - he receives a package in the post - opens it up to find a new outfit, with a note, signed only 'B' - the rift may still be there, but is someone trying to mend it?
Dick could have a regular love interest - perhaps a rookie cop who's also studying on campus (on the short track to the DA's office, perhaps)? She's a little too old for him, but despite this is interested in this younger man who seems to have lived so much already.
I would have thought something like this is more along the lines of what CW wants. The hero is the right sort of age for their demographic (as oppose to the pre-pubescent Dick of circus days). They'd have a fixed setting, thus saving on location costs. Dick is a trained crimefighter, not a little acrobat. There would be more reason for him to come into contact with villains and the Batman rogues' gallery. I'm not saying I've reinvented the wheel here, but this sort of show could be a sort of Angel replacement, as oppose to Smallville's Clarky the Kryptonite Slayer. It's certainly much more likely to make a good Batman substitute than a pre-Batman Robin, which would at best provide enough material for a mini series.
They should rename this show to Batman's Dick, I smell a winner there.
Well one of the central premises would be about Dick searching the globe for the sacred and magical Five Orbs of Space and Time, and making sure his best friend-turned-enemy Lance Cobblepot doesn't get to them first. And of course one orb will allow him to go back in time and seek wisdom from all the deceased Graysons.
^I can guarantee I would watch this show at least once, and I might even like it. An interesting addition might be occasional flashback segments of Dick's childhood if the CW is so dead-set on it, showing his parents and family life. At least it doesn't make me cringe the way the pre-Batman 'Grayson' idea does. And if the pre-Batman show makes it to air, I don't think I'll be watching.
If you want "The Graysons" part of a Nightwing series, you could have Dick flashing back to his early days, ala Lost. It would get around having to show Batman.
Get out of here with that creative nonsense! This is the CW, dammit!
