After the Odyessy Incidient
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Oh, I'm sure such things take more than an hour. Probably the Feds went on a war footing immediately, which meant that their warfleets would be almost assembled for action two years later.
OTOH, the Federation probably goes on a war footing every second month. The galaxy is full of potentially menacing enemies, and it is difficult to say at first whether they are best dealt with by mobilizing the combat fleets or by sending a diplomat or playing a technobabble card. Which is another factor in explaining why mobilization usually is likely to be a relatively slow affair. The other reason seems to be that Starfleet is usually spread out far and wide on "civilian" errands and maintains no idle reserves.
Timo Saloniemi
OTOH, the Federation probably goes on a war footing every second month. The galaxy is full of potentially menacing enemies, and it is difficult to say at first whether they are best dealt with by mobilizing the combat fleets or by sending a diplomat or playing a technobabble card. Which is another factor in explaining why mobilization usually is likely to be a relatively slow affair. The other reason seems to be that Starfleet is usually spread out far and wide on "civilian" errands and maintains no idle reserves.
Timo Saloniemi
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Wasn't the Galaxy class one of the biggest, most powerful ships they had?
Not to mention that losing one would have to be a serious psychological blow, if they ALL had lots of families aboard the way the Enterprise-D did...
Not to mention that losing one would have to be a serious psychological blow, if they ALL had lots of families aboard the way the Enterprise-D did...
The Fed response to the loss of the Odyssey was very underwhelming. It was almost as though they viewed it as a trivial matter of first contact gone wrong. But it didn't stop there. At the end of The Die is Cast Sisko reports to Admiral whoever that the Dominion just wiped out the joint Tal'Shiar/Obsidian Order task force. The response? They joke around about promoting Sisko? WTH? The Romulans and Cardies got it right. Either take them out or join them and not sit around waiting to be attacked, again.
Nearly everyone was evacuated from the Odyssey before it left DS9. The Federation knew what could happen.
And besides, the luster of the Galaxy class had been lost somewhat by the time DS9 was in its 2nd season.
And, again, it was one ship and it happened in enemy territory. Hardly reason to waste massive amounts of resources with a mobilization.
I say, yes, provisionally -- they went on a defensive footing. Shortly after the Odyssey is destroyed, Sisko brings back the Defiant with him to show the Dominion the Federation "has teeth." Now, the Defiant came out of the urgency to develop new defenses against the Borg, but I'm sure that's not the only starship Starfleet built in the aftermath both of the Odyssey's destruction and the failed Romulan/Cardassian first strike against the Founders. Don't forget at least one Bajoran colony, and other ships from the Alpha Quadrant, were destroyed by the Dominion for venturing into their territory. So it would've been prudent to at least begin to beef up Starfleet's strength. -- RR
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That ship had a very bizzare bridge...just thought I'd throw that in there...
I think Starfleet did pump up its defenses prior to the Odyssey incident because of the Borg scare and Wolf 359. I actually think they were already in the process... Remember many ships like Akira, Steamrunner, Sabre, and Defiant class vessels became far more common and saw extensive combat in the later DS9.\
I'd disagree with that. Galaxy-class were the primary battleships of the Dominion War! The only ships in the fleet that can outgun it are the Sovereign and Prometheus-class vessels, which were extremely rare and it was only their quantum torpedo launchers that had the Galaxy completely outclassed. Neither of them were even commisioned until 4th Season (Sovereign), and 6th Season (Prommy). Really only Akira and Nebula class starships can match the firepower and defensive systems of a Galaxy-class during that time.
I'd disagree with that. Galaxy-class were the primary battleships of the Dominion War! The only ships in the fleet that can outgun it are the Sovereign and Prometheus-class vessels, which were extremely rare and it was only their quantum torpedo launchers that had the Galaxy completely outclassed. Neither of them were even commisioned until 4th Season (Sovereign), and 6th Season (Prommy). Really only Akira and Nebula class starships can match the firepower and defensive systems of a Galaxy-class during that time.
I'd say it wasn't untill after Sisko's mission in The Search that Starfleet truly stepped up its defensive posture, though probably at rather slow and steady pace.
Remember, the Federation knew next to nothing about the Dominion in The Jem Hadar, and while certainly the Dominion had shown themselves to be quite agressive and technologically advanced with the destruction of the Odyessy, Starfleet's intel on their fleet strength was practically nil, as they'd only encountered three ships at that point.
After The Search, Sisko probably brought back enough intelligence on the Dominion for the Top Brass to be truly spooked.
Remember, the Federation knew next to nothing about the Dominion in The Jem Hadar, and while certainly the Dominion had shown themselves to be quite agressive and technologically advanced with the destruction of the Odyessy, Starfleet's intel on their fleet strength was practically nil, as they'd only encountered three ships at that point.
After The Search, Sisko probably brought back enough intelligence on the Dominion for the Top Brass to be truly spooked.
I too think that Starfleet did start a build up after the first Borg invasion of the Federation, the Defiant class being one of the ships designed for that purpose.
After the destruction of the Odyssey, Starfleet most likely began gathering material and intelligence for a greater build up than originally planned. Once Sisko's mission in The Search came back and the Defiant was over powered, that's when Starfleet and the Federation began an even greater build up. They now had 1 definite threat in the Borg and one potential threat in the Dominion. I'm sure Starfleet's top brass were begging the Federation Council for every resource they could get.
Anyone got a picture?
I would say that at some point, all vessels like the Galaxy-class got refits so they'd have quantum torpedoes as well. -- RR
We are never given hard core evidence. However, it is seen again in Endgame and in the Enterprise episode in the 26th century. I would think Starfleet would put it into production because it is similar to the Sovereign class in technology but smaller (so probably cheaper).
I would have!
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Is there enough to do a quick sketch of the layout of the Oddy's bridge?
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