I suspect that won't last for very long since the people of Gotham kind of know the truth about Batman namely that he's on their side.
Lingering Questions from 'The Dark Knight'...
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I suspect that won't last for very long since the people of Gotham kind of know the truth about Batman namely that he's on their side.
Well, understand that the whole point of this is the same as the way that they ended the second "Matrix" film, the second "Star Wars" film (ESB, I mean) and so forth...
They're leaving it on a "down" note, specifically to set things up for a third film.
Basically, we've been given the conflicts for the next movie already. The real question, then, is "how do they resolve the pickle they've put the lead characters into?"
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The case can be made, he only "killed" corrupt cops and criminals, so there will still be a segment of Gotham who are on his side.
However, I dont know if Dent is part of that body count. If he is, forget about it.
However, I dont know if Dent is part of that body count. If he is, forget about it.
Well, he killed corrupt cops who're acomplices in the murder of two city DAs and aiding a terrorist. If the city is given that information it may be enough for Batman to, mostly, maintain his symbol.
The movie opens with him having lost faith in his ability to inspire people - and it just gets worse as things move along. His symbol has inspired copycats with guns, and then inspires the Joker - so his original plan isn't working. The fact that he choses to tear down his symbol is kinda the point. It's him saying, maybe what I need to do is not try to inspire hope, maybe I'm more useful as a scapegoat, or as figure of terrible power that can really frighten criminals. Remember Maroni tells him that they are "wise to his game. You got rules." Now it will seem as if he doesn't.
Here's a question : Where will the Joker 'be' in the next film? No actor with any worth or sense is going to want to even appear as him in cameo, after the performance Ledger gave. Saying that he's locked up in Arkham is a LOL to anyone who's read any comics Joker appearance since 1970. Then again, Bale could just say he's in there as long as being in there suits him. As has been speculated here, Joker could just sit back and see who and what his insanity inspired.
The Penguin *could* be a good choice, if done like his recent incarnations, half-way between 'freak' and 'mobster', with enough legit appearance to slide past most inquiries, and enough henchmen to keep the rest back. I can picture the actor -
"I don't smoke, and the name is Cobblepot. Oswald to my friends, of which you are not one."
One thing I did enjoy as a plot-hole killer : the Joker's thugs being Arkham escapees. I have never been able to figure out why Gotham's thugs line up to beaten up by Batman, never get the big haul promised, and like as not be summarily killed by their head-case bosses. Even a greedy, brain-dead thug wants to be alive if the big haul does take.
The Penguin *could* be a good choice, if done like his recent incarnations, half-way between 'freak' and 'mobster', with enough legit appearance to slide past most inquiries, and enough henchmen to keep the rest back. I can picture the actor -
"I don't smoke, and the name is Cobblepot. Oswald to my friends, of which you are not one."
One thing I did enjoy as a plot-hole killer : the Joker's thugs being Arkham escapees. I have never been able to figure out why Gotham's thugs line up to beaten up by Batman, never get the big haul promised, and like as not be summarily killed by their head-case bosses. Even a greedy, brain-dead thug wants to be alive if the big haul does take.
My question on this is how long before Batman is forced to "support" that perception? Basically, thought the criminal community may respect or fear that perception - however mistaken it may be - eventually it's going to require reinforcement of some kind. More criminals will have to die, whether by Batman's hand or at least by his perceived hand.
MeanJoePhaser
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Here's an unanswered question...actually from BATMAN BEGINS which ties into THE DARK KNIGHT.
When did Crane/Scarecrow get cured after being sprayed by his own toxin? Did it wear off? I seem to recall the effects being pretty severe if not treated soon.
Also, his cameo was a tad disappointing.
Also, he's the only major villain left, aside from recasting or miraculous recoveries. Seems kinda odd.
Another question, why the mayor look like he was wearing eyeliner? Seriously.
When did Crane/Scarecrow get cured after being sprayed by his own toxin? Did it wear off? I seem to recall the effects being pretty severe if not treated soon.
Also, his cameo was a tad disappointing.
Also, he's the only major villain left, aside from recasting or miraculous recoveries. Seems kinda odd.
Another question, why the mayor look like he was wearing eyeliner? Seriously.
He had various strengths of it. Batman/Bruce was sprayed with it in BB and it wore off in a few days. I don't recall what the concetration was when Crane got sprayed but it's possible the dose he recieved just wasn't powerful enough to be permanent.
I think it depends. The concentrated dose he sprayed from his sleeve did seem pretty severe. But then, it's possible that he had already experimented on himself with it, which served to dull its effects on him.
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That's right! Forgot about that.
But I thought there was a line somewhere that Rachel had recieved a concetrated dose that'd do her in pretty fast (hence the hurry to get her to the antidote) maybe otherwise the effects wear off/allow for a much longer grace period to inject the antidote. It's not like Fox had it instantly it certainly would've taken him sometime to whip one up, longer than the time it took Bats to drive Rachel to the cave to inject her with the antidote.
^ Though it is also possible that Bruce did get a full dose but wasn't as affected because of the time he spent with Ra's. The weapon was derived from the poppy plant that they used to test him.
In the novel (I don't remember it from the film) they say that not everyone recovered from the fear toxin either and there were even some people it never affected. It's possible that some people had a natural immunity. Maybe he had been influenced by it so much during his own experiments (perhaps partially affected or absorbed) that he was more resistant than others and adapted. I'll have to look that chapter back up because I think it answered that question.
In the novel (I don't remember it from the film) they say that not everyone recovered from the fear toxin either and there were even some people it never affected. It's possible that some people had a natural immunity. Maybe he had been influenced by it so much during his own experiments (perhaps partially affected or absorbed) that he was more resistant than others and adapted. I'll have to look that chapter back up because I think it answered that question.
Nestor Carbonell has naturally thick eyelashes. No eyeliner.
