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What did Die Hard and Indiana Jones revamps have that STXI might not?

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Well, you have Sylar in there (although, I really have no idea how popular Heroes is). As well as Harold and Simon Pegg (whose movies tend to skewer to the audience we are discussing).
 
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I might be too old, but I've never heard about Justin Long or Shia LeBouf before their roles in DH4 / IJ4. But then again, I've never heard about Yelchin either. :-)

But seriously - since we are replacing the whole cast, is there any need to add some new characters in order to showcase some green, wet-behind-the-ears children starlets?
 
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I've come to notice something.

Both Die Hard and Indiana Jones movies of this decade are revamps of previously exhausted movie franchises from 'back in the day'. Not so dissimilar from J.J. Abrams' Star Trek movie.

A pattern I've noticed that might be studio driven is that both Indy and Die Hard wrote in vehicles for contemporary youthful actors most definitely to attract the younger audience of today. Justin Long and Shia LeBouf are two such actors. While not huge actors, they've definitely succeeded in making their respective older franchises a lot more entertaining for younger viewers who may not have been around for the earlier movies but can enjoy the movie more by identifying with young actors they know from other films. (By young, I'm talking mostly my generation, the 16-24 year old crowd.)



why lebouf may have had that affect from most of the people i heard long was still mostly seen as the mac guy and not what attracted them to the last die hard film.

really the one thing that should mess with the minds in hollywood is just how much some of the younger crowd identified with indy because they had grown up watching the earlier films.

i heard several people seemingly younger then 25 talk about how indy was their favorite action movie.
 
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Star Trek...

...starring...

HANNAH MONTANA!!!

Eww...don't even suggest that jokingly! :lol: Sadly, it would probably attract a lot of the tween/teenage girls demographic.
Hannah Montana's recent concert tour came to the convention center next door to the restaurant where I wait tables. I had the pleasure of waiting on Hannah's younger sister and backup dancers, and believe me, if Hannah Montana shows up in the new Star Trek movie, I will make it my personal vendetta to find JJ Abrams and smack him in the face.
 
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I had the pleasure of waiting on Hannah's younger sister and backup dancers, and believe me, if Hannah Montana shows up in the new Star Trek movie, I will make it my personal vendetta to find JJ Abrams and smack him in the face.

Why, didn't they leave you a tip? :p
 
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Burger King value meal toys?
 
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^No, but they got really excited when I told them how to get to Walmart. OMGThere'saWalmarthere?WetotallyhavetogotoWalmart!IloveWalmart!!!!
 
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It solidified my hate for most people, that's for sure.

These people were touring around the entire country with Hannah Montana, and the best part of their day is going to Walmart? Fucking pathetic.

Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled thread....
 
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Never got into the die hard movies, but after watching that abortion of an indiana jones movie here is what the new trek movie DOESN'T need:

-"I got a bad feeling about this". Hopefully, the writer can come up with far wittier diologue than George Lucas, who writes diologue beneath seventh grade level.
-Better chemistry. This is the glue that ties a film together,especially in ensemble pieces. The Crystal Skull(TKS) just didn't have that.
-The good again/bad again confident of Jones was confusing. No one trusts a guy that sells them out to the enemy the first time. This would be like Kirk trusting Kahn to find Genesis. It's just not believable.
-CGI creatures that no one cares about. Come on. Gophers? It seems like Lucas has become a CGI madman who thinks a scene isn't interesting without CGI animals in it.
-Things that don't fit in the franchise. With Star Trek I expect aliens. With Indians Jones I expect early 20th century adventures, not aliens.


This would be like having Freddy Kruegar killing Enterprise crew men in their sleep. This is what ruined TKS for me. The whole premise was completely out of place for an indiana jones movie.
 
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Spoilers! :mad:
 
Re: What did Die Hard and Indiana Jones revamps have that STXI might n

Good acting, decent plots, and huge fan bases that don't jump ship when something goes wrong?
 
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in reference to ktanner3


as for the more sci fi aspect ( i hope saying this isnt too specific...)then the earlier religious aspects of the earlier movies it is more of a reflection of the changing of the times.
the earliers films reflected the age they took part in and were based more on an action adventure serial.

with the age of the bomb and the same year as sputnik crystal skull was reflecting a very different era and the serial movies of that era.

The good again/bad again confident of Jones was confusing. No one trusts a guy that sells them out to the enemy the first time. This would be like Kirk trusting Kahn to find Genesis. It's just not believable

they actually adress this by having the guy remind indy that in berlin they had acted as double agents.
so from that point indy does have the bit of uncertainty about just what is going on.
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in reference to ktanner3


as for the more sci fi aspect ( i hope saying this isnt too specific...)then the earlier religious aspects of the earlier movies it is more of a reflection of the changing of the times.
the earliers films reflected the age they took part in and were based more on an action adventure serial.

with the age of the bomb and the same year as sputnik crystal skull was reflecting a very different era and the serial movies of that era.

The good again/bad again confident of Jones was confusing. No one trusts a guy that sells them out to the enemy the first time. This would be like Kirk trusting Kahn to find Genesis. It's just not believable

they actually adress this by having the guy remind indy that in berlin they had acted as double agents.
so from that point indy does have the bit of uncertainty about just what is going on.
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I must have missed that line.
But still, after he turned on indy in the beginning of the movie he should have never trusted him again.
And to those who are worried about spoliers don't read any reviews because they go into much more detail than I did. The movie has been out for awhile now. What's the statute of limitations before we can talk about a movie? 3 months? 3 years? What is it?
 
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And to those who are worried about spoliers don't read any reviews because they go into much more detail than I did. The movie has been out for awhile now. What's the statute of limitations before we can talk about a movie? 3 months? 3 years? What is it?
Still one year from release date or first airing, I believe. And yes, those interested in avoiding spoilers will most likely avoid reading reviews, too.

However, the limitation is not on talking about it at all. You can talk about it all you like. The spoiler policy is for the benefit of those who have not yet seen (or have not yet been able to see) the movie or episode in question.

It's just common courtesy, really: give others a choice to be spoiled or not to be spoiled, whether by putting a spoiler warning in the thread title or by using the tags in a post. That's all we ask. :)
 
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The one thing Die Hard and Indiana Jones had that Trek XI lacks is a decade long break (longer actually). Both films were gone long enough that people still remembered the franchises yet at the same time were not tired of the franchise since had been many years since a new one came out. Plus those films got to cash in on people like me, someone born in 87 and remembers the Die Hard and Indy movies from when they were a kid yet never got to see them in theaters. At the same time they get the older crowd who saw those movies in the theaters yet had not seen one in a long time.

I guess what I am getting at is that Trek has not had a long enough rest to be compared to movies like Die Hard and Indy

Not only all that, but while the new Star Trek will be a revamp, the latest Die Hard and Indy were not. They were simply continuations of what came before.
 
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