Sometimes simple is best. I would like to see more Sam Kirk during the last season. Maybe him getting his new assignment.
What would you like to see in the finale episode of Season 5?
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Sometimes simple is best. I would like to see more Sam Kirk during the last season. Maybe him getting his new assignment.
The Lincoln has several thousand people aboard.
Pikes Enterprise has 203.
I love this!
That's nice.
So, maybe only three or four therapists.
Certainly not an argument for "none."
If you only have 203 people you need a supply officer and engineers a lot more than you need a counselor.
I would think that that's more than enough personnel to require a mental health specialist of some sort. These people are isolated and far from home and face all sorts of violent and out of the ordinary situations.
Yeah, that doesn't present an actual necessary choice.
The only way it's plausible to fans is because they agree to pretend that Starfleet is operating in 1940.
Really, people are just twisting themselves in knots to pretend that mental health support would be treated as optional on these ships for the sake of an argument.
Starfleet is based on Genes navy service, in the 1940s.
Also, humanity is post scarcity. Hopefully we are more evolved and into self care that we need significantly less counselors and other mental health issues. We are not failures, we simply try something else.
Garth of Izar, Tristan Adams and Janice Lester all say "hello". Kirk really should have spoke with someone about his obsession with that cloud creature.
He was in the Army Air Forces. Not sure how much Trek takes from Gene’s personal military experience, it owes more to the fiction he read growing up. Though as a bomber pilot he probably experienced first hand the mental stress of wartime military service.
Clearly he thought mental health was important, which is why he included a psychiatrist in TOS and a counselor in TNG.
I always heard that the counselor was placed there because of the 80s push for psychology... never heard it was a Rodenberry thing
Thanks!
Yes, entertainment often reflects the time in which it was made. Psychotherapy was also quite big in the postWWII era and can be seen as an element in that era’s entertainment.
Entire sitcoms like The Bob Newhart Show centered around the psychiatric profession and a trained psychiatrist's daily job and wacky adventures with patients. Successful sitcoms that lasted many years.
That's...not why counselors exist is because we're failures
Or a writer.
The audience would be more likely.
We find out that all of TOS was an illusion generated for Pike by the Talosians, so that he could see his old crewmates once a week.
Unfortunately, Talosians were no better at understanding human engineering design than human anatomy. So the Enterprise came out messed up-looking, like Vina.
Unfortunately, Talosians were no better at understanding human engineering design than human anatomy. So the Enterprise came out messed up-looking, like Vina.
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