The first two Kelvin-verse movies are my two least favorite movies in the entire franchise.
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They worked to a degree. The mishandling of them and poor timing of sequels ensured that the casuals moved on and that the canon complaints would become more prominent in the debate. It wasn't overwhelming, but they couldn't completely get away from the canon complaints either.
As I said, they could easily go right back to the Kelvin films, and have that canon clear slate but no one seems interested in doing that.
Agreed. It's got a great arc, it ties back to the first film very well, Kirk and Spock go through interesting challenges and it has social commentary.
As a film it's very enjoyable.
Well, they are, by far, my two favourite films in the franchise (it’s not even close). Not that I’m trying to change your mind, but rather to illustrate how difficult it is to satisfy all the fans.
2009 in particular fares the worst to me. They never quite overcome the script problems they had to improvise fixes on during the Writer's Strike.
I really liked XI when it first came out but over the years it has just aged so poorly in my eyes, to the point where its bones have deteriorated into dust.
Agreed. And then "into darkness" played the "remember this" game a little too hard the way Picard season 3 eventually would. I liked "Beyond"...
I'll be honest in that I enjoyed '09 while sitting in the theater, but it didn't hold up very well upon rewatch.
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I still rank Into Darkness at 14th on the list of Star Trek films.
You seem to have typed an extraneous “4” in that sentence.
even thought the kelvin verse movies made a buttload of cash
i still wonder why paramount never made more kelvin verse movies
They didn’t make that much money. They did well in the context of Trek but the studio expectations were higher than what was achieved. I’m a big fan of those films, especially the first two, and would love to have more with that cast but it’s not terribly realistic anymore.
I'm sure you'll figure it out.
I loved the movie when it first came out. Upon a recent rewatch, I found the plot to be quite silly and the plot holes to be numerous. It’s actually a pretty dumb film. But then, so was Phantom Menace, and they both did well at the box office.
Indeed, yes. 09 is probably my top Trek film for just rewatch value alone.
Just did a rewatch as part of my 60th Trek celebration. The film has a very enjoyable story, compelling characters and intense action. Kirk and Spock are perfectly cast and the tension of the film is good.
It's a film I rewatch often because Kirk's arc is so compelling. I laugh, I cry and I enjoy the characters.
History is replete with examples of fun and dumb selling big.
But enough about the Fast and Furious franchise.
The third one lost money I believe. It seems their has been several efforts to try and make another one but for whatever reason, each attempt fell through and I guess after enough time they just gave up on the idea.
