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I don't think Trek has ever been scientifically possible. I've lived to learn with that. What I still can't live with is when one of the shows puts someone in command that shouldn't be remotely near the captain's chair. Crusher, Chekov (in ST2009), Kirk (cadet promoted to first officer), Tilly.
Wasn't the main fleet in some other star system dealing with something never explained, which is why Enterprise and the other vessels were crewed by cadets?

Them getting to keep their positions afterwards is a bit much, but hey it's a movie. YMMV.:shrug:
 
Wasn't the main fleet in some other star system dealing with something never explained, which is why Enterprise and the other vessels were crewed by cadets?

Them getting to keep their positions afterwards is a bit much, but hey it's a movie. YMMV.:shrug:
The bulk of the fleet was in the Larantian system dealing with a crisis. The task force of ships had both cadets and officers and lost about 90 percent of their staffing. Which means a shortage of personnel and that then keeping their positions makes a bit of sense.
 
And according to him, that's why Gene hired him.

Gene didn't want someone who knew Star Trek.
And he is by far my least favorite staff writer in the history of the franchise, so how'd that work out? It astounds me that all the amazing talent that were in the trek writers rooms in the early days, it seems incomprehensible to me that somehow Brannon Braga is the one that got to be showrunner on two shows. And not coincidentally my two least favorite Star Treks..
 
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Star Trek boss Alex Kurtzman talking about how he never watched Star Trek:• At an April 2008 Paramount “Star Trek” junket, Kurtzman said he’d never sat through a full episode before being hired. “I was not a fan. I had watched maybe two or three episodes years ago—and they weren’t really my thing. Then JJ and Bob [Orci] asked me to help, and I thought, ‘I’d better go back and binge this, or I’ll look like an idiot.’” (Entertainment Weekly, April 2008 press junket)•

THEY WEREN'T REALLY MY THING??

In an MTV News feature from May 2008, he again confessed, “You know, I’m a Spider-Man guy, so I grew up with comics, not sci-fi TV. When they handed me Star Trek, I honestly had to do a crash-course: watch the original series in two weeks, read some reference books—just so I didn’t butcher the lore.” (MTV News, May 2008)•

Consider it butchered.

At the San Diego Comic-Con “Star Trek” panel in July 2008, during a writers’ roundtable, Kurtzman quipped, “It’s a weird feeling showing up in the writers’ room and everyone’s speaking Klingon and quoting Roddenberry—you realize you’ve got some homework. I basically learned Trek the way you learn a foreign language in college: all-nighters and flash cards.” (SDCC, July 2008 transcript)

I would have begun booing and throwing stuff

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I blame Paramount. They hired him instead of someone who knew his shite. Fuck them, and Kurtzman too.
Oh please, what the genuine frak are you in about. You think Rick Berman and Brannon Braga Michael piller and Ron Moore were trek fans before they started working on the show? Michael Piller hadn't even written science fiction and had little understanding of the genre when he started on TNG.

Being a fan of trek doesn't mean you have the ability to write it or even understand it. Case in point is Alec Peters. He claimed to be a trek fan and yet created Axanar which is so disturbingly far from what star trek is actually is about.

The notion that only a dyed in the wool trek fan can write star trek is imbecilic and juvenile. It's like saying you need to understand burgers to work at McDonald's or you need to know everything about law before deciding to study to become a lawyer.
 
The notion that only a dyed in the wool trek fan can write star trek is imbecilic and juvenile. It's like saying you need to understand burgers to work at McDonald's or you need to know everything about law before deciding to study to become a lawyer.

I would expect my lawyer to have a working knowledge of the law. Lawyers who don't know the law lose in court. Kurtzman didn't bother to pass the bar exam.
 
I would expect my lawyer to have a working knowledge of the law. Lawyers who don't know the law lose in court. Kurtzman didn't bother to pass the bar exam.
Yeah but you have to study law before you can effectively be a lawyer. No one is born with knowledge preprogrammed. The notion that someone has to know everything about star trek to run star trek is idiotic.
 
Nicholas Meyer knew almost nothing about Star Trek in 1981 yet crafted one of and in some eyes THE best movie in the franchise. His healthy disrespect for what had come before and desire to give us Horatio Hornblower in space (right down to crowds of frenzied ship's crew pulling up metal deckplates to prepare for battle) gave us the Trek that likely saved the entire franchise.
 
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And he is by far my least favorite staff writer in the history of the franchise, so how'd that work out? It astounds me that all the amazing talent that were in the trek writers rooms in the early days, it seems incomprehensible to me that somehow Brannon Braga is the one that got to be showrunner on two shows. And not coincidentally my two least favorite Star Treks..
He was the biggest Berman suck up who had no backbone, that’s why he became showrunner. It’s sad seeing him in interviews where he’ll be critical of something from ENTERPRISE, but when he’s sitting next to Berman he changes his tune as if not wanting to offend his old boss. It’s sad.
 
I don't know if Tony Gilroy hated Star Wars or simply didn't watch Star Wars, but that worked wonders for Andor.

Good is good.
He didn't dislike Star Wars, he just wasn't a fan.

He had writers on the show that were fans, and he consulted the Story Group.

I would expect my lawyer to have a working knowledge of the law. Lawyers who don't know the law lose in court. Kurtzman didn't bother to pass the bar exam.
But he did watch it before starting work on the movies and the shows. He says that in the quote you provided lol.
 
I would expect my lawyer to have a working knowledge of the law.

I expect a TV producer to have a working knowledge of the TV industry. Not of every property that exists. Rick Berman, Harve Bennett and Nick Meyer were all hired without working knowledge of Trek.

Could you see a new writer or one who has worked other genres trying to get a job on NCIS? Sorry, you don't know our 75 seasons of lore, you simply wouldn't work out. Expecting a working knowledge of Trek for anyone hired shrinks and will continue to shrink the available people who can work on it to a point you end up with someone like Terry Matalas, who doesn't original bone in his body.

Or, has Trek become a binky? If it has, then it has no future because the people who actually care about this stuff are growing old and dying. Very few folks are going to care that the Kurtzman stuff existed in ten years time.
 
has Trek become a binky? If it has, then it has no future because the people who actually care about this stuff are growing old and dying. Very few folks are going to care that the Kurtzman stuff existed in ten years time.
It's a binky. There's no drive forward save for comfort food. That's what the audience majority indicates what is going to drive views. The question is no longer, "Are you entertained?' but "Are you comfortable?"
 
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