you dont like sarcasm i see
IMHO, Spock comes off as a creep in that scene.
Here is my take:
Rand is trying to tell Kirk that she understands it wasn't really him doing those things; that she knows he would never do such things in his right mind. She is trying to help him not be uncomfortable with her because of what happened. Kirk senses how uncomfortable she is, and he is also uncomfortable, so he says "Thank you, Yeoman" to let her end the conversation.
Meanwhile, Spock jumps in with basically, "yeah, but you really kind of liked it, didn't you?" About the "evil Kirk" nearly raping her. Really offensive and not even justifiable by saying "well, it was the 60's and things were different." This one even goes beyond that line.
Here is my take:
Rand is trying to tell Kirk that she understands it wasn't really him doing those things; that she knows he would never do such things in his right mind. She is trying to help him not be uncomfortable with her because of what happened. Kirk senses how uncomfortable she is, and he is also uncomfortable, so he says "Thank you, Yeoman" to let her end the conversation.
Meanwhile, Spock jumps in with basically, "yeah, but you really kind of liked it, didn't you?" About the "evil Kirk" nearly raping her. Really offensive and not even justifiable by saying "well, it was the 60's and things were different." This one even goes beyond that line.
Spock's line is a moment after that. Rand brings a PADD to him at the science station, and looks at Kirk while waiting. Only then does Spock comment (I think on Rand's clear interest in the captain, whom she now knows—because of the '"impostor"—is attracted to her, too).
"No beach to walk on for us" is a quote from Kirk regarding his "never to happen" relationship with Rand from the episode "The naked time"
ok, so the Borg episode of Enterprise. It’s a good episode, the Borg are actually scary for the first time since First Contact after being defanged and overused by Voyager.
My problem with the episode is how the Borg get there. It’s the implication that Picard and the Enterprise wouldn’t scour the Earth and the Moon to make sure no Borg wreckage/tech was around. It’s sloppy work. Then again I dunno how you get the Borg there without some convoluted “they time traveled again” sorta plot.
My problem with the episode is how the Borg get there. It’s the implication that Picard and the Enterprise wouldn’t scour the Earth and the Moon to make sure no Borg wreckage/tech was around. It’s sloppy work. Then again I dunno how you get the Borg there without some convoluted “they time traveled again” sorta plot.
Well, the Enterprise was pretty heavily compromised at the time...they may have not been able to do quite the level of clean-up they would have under ordinary circumstances.
Clean up is the DTI’s job.
"transporter, lock on to all Borg related components and scatter them."
It's not like they're trying to preserve them.
It's not like they're trying to preserve them.
Well, I mean, in First Contact, we see the Enterprise go back through time to the 24th century. And it's pretty much that they make first contact with the Vulcans, beam up, and leave. They pretty clearly did not spend any time "cleaning up" or doing anything else.
Actually, that does remind me of another ‘bug’… how easily the TNG crew made it back to the 24th century at the end of ST:FC.
Up until that point in the movies at least, it was a big feat to time travel, complete with odd visions of heads and ponds/lily pads.
But FC reduces it to a little warp streak in the sky and a hand wave.Cheers,
-CM-
Time travel is always a bit annoying and.... cheap... you can resolve any story contradiction with time travel, everthing can be made "unhappen" or "but it happened" with time travel.... i would avoid is a a writer with personal standards
My problem is using the old "wake up after being frozen in ice" trick. The human heart and brain can't be turned off and on like that.
They're Borg.
In the 24th century.
Centuries ago a theory about what the human brain was, was that it was merely a means to dissipate heat from the body and cool it off.
Just a few decades ago if we wanted to know what was going on side, we had to cut people up with exploratory surgery. Now that's like 100% something not done anymore thanks to technological improvements.
A lot changes.
ALSO, it's a TV show. Voyager had warp ten salamander babies and two crew turn into giant salamanders, then back. TNG had the crew re-age, and turn into hideous DNA and body transforming monsters.
Actually, that does remind me of another ‘bug’… how easily the TNG crew made it back to the 24th century at the end of ST:FC.
Up until that point in the movies at least, it was a big feat to time travel, complete with odd visions of heads and ponds/lily pads.
Cheers,
-CM-
You mean unlike the complicated depiction of time travel in "Assignment Earth"?
Oh wait...
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