Kirk's the CO of the Enterprise. He's in charge.In "The Deadly Years," why does Commodore Stocker keep acting like Kirk is his superior officer, when he outranks Kirk?
That is true, but even so, a higher ranked officer is generally not going to refer to him as "sir" and be so deferential.Kirk's the CO of the Enterprise. He's in charge.
Well he's also an incompetent desk jockey who's probably in awe of Starship Captains.That is true, but even so, a higher ranked officer is generally not going to refer to him as "sir" and be so deferential.
That's fair. Until such time as he sees an opportunity to seize command from Kirk and almost get everyone killed, of course.Well he's also an incompetent desk jockey who's probably in awe of Starship Captains.
Captain is in direct command of the ship, and Stocker was not in Kirk's immediate chain of command. A certain level of decorum and respect is offered to the CO of a vessel.In "The Deadly Years," why does Commodore Stocker keep acting like Kirk is his superior officer, when he outranks Kirk?
AI gave me this.
Once, when Farragut was aboard and had sailed close up to the levee to examine something he was interested in, the enemy suddenly ran up a couple of field guns and opened a point-blank fire.
Farragut saw Dewey duck at a passing shot, and remarked to him: "Why don't you stand firm, Lieutenant? Don't you know you can't jump quick enough?"
A day or so after, the admiral dodged a shot. The lieutenant smiled and held his tongue; but the admiral had a guilty conscience. He cleared his throat once or twice, shifted his attitude, and finally declared: "Why, sir, you can't help it, sir. It's human nature, and there's an end to it!"
In The Bounty (as in "Mutiny on") with Anthony Hopkins and Mel Gibson, Captain Bly constantly addresses subordinate officer Fletcher Christian as Sir, even when he's furiously scolding the guy. In no way does it make Fletcher the boss.In addition to what J.T.B. said, there was an archaic tradition of using "sir" for all gentlemen at one point. A famous story about Dewey and Farragut during the Civil War is a good example:
Stocker is a staff officer, with no line experience. Kirk is a line officer. There are staff officers with line officer experience, but Stocker acknowledges he isn't one of them. Line officers can command a vessel, staff officers without line experience command a desk, or provide technical expertise. The line officer in command on a vessel outranks all staff officers on the vessel, in command decisions regardless of the staff officer's rank, if Kirk was to visit Stocker at Stokers office, and not on the ship, where Stocker was in charge, then Kirk would show deference to Stocker.In "The Deadly Years," why does Commodore Stocker keep acting like Kirk is his superior officer, when he outranks Kirk?
That is correct, if the writers knew how things really worked on vessels, then there wouldn't be a story, because staff officers with no line experience would not be allowed to do what Stocker did. In reality the highest ranking line officer should be the one to assume command. As far as I know it should be either Sulu or Uhura, depending on who had seniority in rank. Neither one of them would have gone into Romulan space, just to get to Stocker's Starbase assignment using the shortest route possible.So everything said here being true, why did regulations permit Stocker to assume command? Obviously Kirk, Spock, and Scotty were all incapacitated. But why didn't command fall to the next person in the ship's regular chain of command, which I assume would either be Uhura or Sulu, both of whom were unaffected by the ailment?
Also, even for a staff officer who has never served on a starship, "Let's save time by blowing through the Romulan Neutral Zone" seems especially boneheaded. Surely anyone who rose to the rank of Commodore, even if they were deskbound their entire career, would know that you don't go traipsing into territory where you are forbidden by treaty and likely to be attacked by the Romulans.
That is correct, if the writers knew how things really worked on vessels, then there wouldn't be a story, because staff officers with no line experience would not be allowed to do what Stocker did. In reality the highest ranking line officer should be the one to assume command. As far as I know it should be either Sulu or Uhura, depending on who had seniority in rank. Neither one of them would have gone into Romulan space, just to get to Stocker's Starbase assignment using the shortest route possible.
STOCKER
Well, since the senior officers are incapable and I am of flag rank, I am forced by regulations to assume command.
SPOCK
Sir, you have never commanded a starship.
STOCKER
What would you have, a junior officer with far less experience than I have?
Per the script, there are Starfleet regulations that force a flag officer to take command if senior officers are incapacitated even of a starship, so, that's that. Giving command over to a junior officer (Lt. and lower) would be a breach of regulations. All of Stocker's decisions about the competency hearing and taking command is by the book; he was doing the right thing. Now his command decisions are horrible; sucks to be the Enterprise. YMMVI don't think he's a staff officer as such. My impression is that he's a line officer who came up through the shore side of Starfleet, and has been appointed as the facility commander for Starbase 10 (like Stocker at Starbase 11, who was a former starship captain).
The episode specifically addresses why he accedes to command rather than Sulu, Leslie, Uhura, etc.:
It sounds like Stocker is legally qualified to take charge of the ship, but wouldn't normally have the authority underway to supersede any of the ship's senior officers.

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